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xx Mapping the Local Left (Chatham County, NC)
Yesterday at 04:36:54 PM by zorro
Mapping the Local Left (Chatham County)

Last week, the Civitas Institute performed a major service by releasing a compendium of left-wing organizations, people and funding sources in the state of North Carolina.  This prodigious effort is called "Mapping the Left".

There should be a comparable resource specifically for Chatham County.  Let's get this list kicked off with a modest effort, focusing primarily on organizations that appear to reside on the left side of the ideological spectrum, politically or culturally.  Additional suggestions are certainly welcome and needed. 


Carrboro produced Chatham County Line newspaper


Town of Pittsboro

Chatham County Board of Commissioners (3 out of 5)

Chatham County School Board (2 out of 4)


Chatham County Schools

Arts and Culture

Chatham Arts

Non-profit Sector

Abundance Foundation

Religious Left

Liberal mainline denominations/churches

Political Advocacy Groups/ Committees

Pittsboro Matters


League of Women Voters

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xx Copy of the Economic Impact of Chatham Park study available online
January 27, 2015, 12:38:34 PM by Gene Galin
Copy of the Economic Impact of Chatham Park study available online

You can find a pdf copy of the Economic Impact of the Chatham Park Development at
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xx Some Positive Aspects of Chatham Park
January 27, 2015, 11:40:35 AM by RichardSaunders
Well would you look at that.  Chatham Park might just have some good things coming along with it.
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moved MOVED: Two farmers and a chef hatch pop-up dinners in Pittsboro
January 27, 2015, 07:27:17 AM by Gene Galin
This topic has been moved to Chatham County Food & Drink.

xx NC, Volvo in talks on auto plant
January 23, 2015, 04:20:25 PM by munn5

"Volvo is said to be looking at North Carolina and any incentives it might get for a plant as the Swedish car maker angles for a resurgence in the United States, according a report Wednesday in the British newspaper Financial Times....Volvo has talked with the legislatures of states including Kentucky, North Carolina and South Carolina about incentives that may be available for the project, the sources claimed. ...Volvos presence in North Carolina includes its Volvo Trucks North American corporate headquarters in Greensboro. It has a truck assembly plant in Dublin, Va., about two hours north of Greensboro....The state has at least three sites in various stages of readiness for an auto plant, including one near Siler City."
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xx CJ - Chatham County's elected boards to meet January 29
January 23, 2015, 09:20:56 AM by Gene Galin
Chatham County's elected boards to meet January 29

Siler City, NC On Thursday, January 29, the Chatham Economic Development Corporation (EDC) will host a joint meeting with the Chatham County Board of Commissioners, the town boards of Goldston, Pittsboro, and Siler City, and the Board of Education to discuss effective models of career and technical education.

In September, the University of North Carolinas Center for International Understanding hosted a Global Leaders to Germany program to provide North Carolina representatives an opportunity to learn first-hand about the German system of supporting manufacturing. The Institute for Emerging Issues sponsored a Chatham County team to attend: Dianne Reid, President of Chatham EDC, Renee Paschal, Assistant County Manager and Dr. Pamela Senegal, Vice President of Economic and Community Development for Central Carolina Community College.

Dianne Reid and Renee Paschal will talk about what they learned from German models of apprenticeships and dual education, and how Chatham County can implement similar strategies in local career and technical education programs.

The public event is at 7 p.m. at Bestfood Cafeteria in Siler City (220 East 11th St.). Guests are invited to arrive at 6 p.m. for a Dutch treat dinner.For more information, contact the EDC at 919-542-8274.
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xx Renee Ellmers switches to the DNC
January 22, 2015, 11:19:23 AM by Livin-in-Chatham
Well, that is the headline that I expect any day now.  She loves amnesty.  She loves big government spending.  Now she loves killing babies. The only thing left for her to do is leave her husband and marry Nancy Pelosi.
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xx The real mass transit of the future in Chatham County
January 21, 2015, 05:56:49 PM by zorro
The FOWL Randy Voller and his OWL friends tell us how the magic bus format of mass transit is an investment in the county's future.

The truth is that Randy's thinking is so last millennium.

THE REAL MASS TRANSIT OF THE FUTURE: How Automated Vehicles Will Change Lifestyles.

What will automated cars and trucks do to change society? First some uncontroversial changes:

    A big reduction in jobs driving taxis.
    A big reduction in jobs driving local delivery and long haul trucks.
    A big reduction in car accidents and deaths from car accidents.
    Greater mobility for the blind and other disabled.
    Greater fuel efficiency as cars drive themselves more optimally.
    Higher potential traffic volume on a freeway as cars do coordinated speed control and lane changes.

But what about the impacts on personal decisions on whether to live in cities, suburbs, or rural environments? That one seems a lot harder to call.

The argument for more suburban and rural living: commuting from suburb to city will become faster (faster average freeway speeds) and easier. Also commuting between suburbs (which is also quite common) will become easier as well. Why live in a city to reduce commuting time and commuting stress when you can use the commuting type to catch up on email, do video conferencing, and write documents? All else equal if commuting becomes easier people will commute longer distances.

The argument for more city living: autonomous cars will make mobility within a city cheaper, faster, and safer. Autonomous cars will reduce the need for car ownership. In a future permutation of Uber or Lyft you will be able to summon a rental autonomous vehicle, walk out your apartment, and find it waiting for you by the time you reach the street. Car ownership will become much less common and yet mobility will increase within the city. You won't need to park your car when you reach your destination because it will drive itself off to pick up another customer - just like taxis now but cheaper and with much faster service. So the high costs and hassles of car ownership will be replaced with a much more responsive transportation system within cities. Though the increase in people moving around might make traffic worse.

In both suburbs and cities I expect to see big commuter buses to be replaced by shared riding in smaller vehicles. Buses have to run less often because they are so big. Therefore people have to wait for them rather than immediately go where they want to go. An autonomous SUV going down a busy suburban or city surface road will get a signal from a central dispatching computer to pick up people who walk out from side streets and carry them in a direction that other riders in the vehicle are already going.

Ask yourself: Given autonomous vehicles would you change your mind about where you want to live? What sort of housing would you move from and to?
Randall Parker, 2015 January 18 09:40 AM 
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xx Chatham commissioners hear from Duke Energy, Charah
January 21, 2015, 02:16:53 PM by Gene Galin
Chatham commissioners hear from Duke Energy, Charah
Jan. 21, 2015 @ 05:01 AM
Kathryn Trogdon


The Chatham County Board of Commissioners asked Duke Energy and Charah representatives Tuesday about alternatives to storing millions of tons of coal ash at Chatham and Lee county clay mine sites learning that other options are being explored as a legislative time crunch looms.

Addressing the board during a meeting Tuesday, Charah representatives said about 3 million tons of coal ash will come to Chatham County starting in the spring or early summer.

We understand that the issue of coal ash is one that generates a lot of questions, said Mike Hughes, Duke Energy vice president of community relations. It clearly generates a lot of emotions as well.

Prompted by questions he had received from concerned Chatham County residents, Commission Chairman Jim Crawford asked the Duke Energy and Charah representatives what alternatives existed to placing the coal ash in Chatham County and for assurances that other options had not been ruled out just because Chatham County has a convenient clay pit.

Hughes emphasized that Duke Energy has been generating coal ash for about 70 years, and because of the Coal Ash Management Act that requires Duke Energy to excavate the four highest priority sites by 2019, there was a real time constraint.

But Hughes added that Duke Energy still is looking into other possibilities for coal ash storage.

I believe that we are continuing to evaluate ... options where we have an option to continue to store the coal ash onsite at any of those facilities that the state has deemed high priority, he said.

Hughes explained that the Riverbend site had no room to continue to store coal ash, but after more room has been made at the Sutton site, it could handle the movement and storage of the existing material.

Ultimately, the plan is to store most of that ash onsite, he said. This development would not change phase one of Duke and Charahs plan, which calls for 3 million tons of coal ash to be moved to the Chatham and Lee County sites.

Hughes added that Duke Energy believed addressing the project in phases was the best way to approach the issue. He said through this method, new technologies can be evaluated as solutions as they become available.

But right now, we have to deal with a known quantity of ash with known technologies, he said.

Commissioner Karen Howard said due to the time constraint, Duke Energys motivation and focus are different than the commissioners, which means the decision to store coal ash in Chatham County may not be in the best interest of the residents.

You have a different set of priorities in dealing with this, she said. We are left with the result.

Lee and Chatham county commissioners recently agreed that Duke Energys coal ash plans were not beneficial to their respective communities passing resolutions in opposition. Lee County Commission Chairman Amy Dalrymple and County Manager John Crumpton attended Chatham countys meeting Tuesday to hear the presentation.

Unlike Lee County, Chatham County has a Duke Energy-owned power plant located in Moncure, and the commissioners said they didnt want to see coal ash from that site moved to another county any more than they want coal ash from the Riverbend and Sutton sites to be put in the Brickhaven mine.

Weve not yet submitted a plan for our Cape Fear Plant in Moncure in regard to ash disposal, Hughes said. We believe the Brickhaven Mine is an ideal and logical place for that ash to go.

The board took no action at the meeting, which was a work session, and is set to meet next on Feb. 2.

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sad NC Democrats think Randy Voller is an insane Party Pooper
January 20, 2015, 04:23:08 PM by zorro
Party Pooper
Gary Pearce posted on January 20, 2015 09:19

Theres good news and theres bad news about the true state of the N.C. Democratic Party.
The bad news is that the actual financial situation is worse than it looks. Much of the $42,700 that the party has on hand belongs to the House and Senate caucuses.
Thats also the good news, because the caucuses have made sure Chairman Randy Voller cant get to the money.
More good news: With county parties, candidate committees and super PACs, Democrats have learned to work around the Goodwin House Horrors.
Still and all, it would help to have a functioning state party, one that focuses on electing candidates instead of debating the platform on Iraq and castigating heretics to the true faith.
It would help to have one that keeps the phones and Internet working. At times during the fall campaign, both went down at party HQ. That made running campaigns a tad difficult.
Voller, who said he doesnt know what the monthly budget is, blamed others. He told Colin Campbell of the N&O: Its difficult to get some of the larger counties to want to pay their money to the sustaining fund.
Thats because they dont have any confidence in Voller. Thats why Kay Hagans campaign worked through the Wake County Democratic Party. Thats why the caucuses put their accounts off limits.
Now that Voller has scheduled the election of the next chair in his hometown of Pittsboro, theres a suspicion he wants to engineer his own reelection.
Which brings us to the definition of insanity: to keep doing the same things youve been doing and expect a different result.

Meanwhile, the campaign for chair will no doubt focus on vital issues, like whether one of the candidates is too close to turn-of-the-century (thats 1900, not 2000) Governor Charles Brantley Aycock.
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