Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 13:02:51 -0400
From: Tom Glendinning
Subject: Re:  Why do we need DENR?

Mr. Kirkman’s comments on DENR and Jordan water quality are off base.

Cary and Apex receive 32 mgd (million gallons per day) of the total 63 mgd managed by the Division of Water Resources.  Orange and Wake Counties, Chatham County, Durham, Holly Springs, OWASA and Morrisvile receive the rest.  Chatham has an allotment of 10% of the total.  So Cary does not get “all the water.”

Further, the WWP outfall from the combination plant in Wake County serves all the towns in western Wake and southwest Raleigh.  Its effluent will be cleaner than the raw water coming out of the river basin and lake, with some nutrients to dilute to normal levels.  The new plant will be a tertiary treatment facility which cleans the water beyond normal WWTP processes to drinking quality standard.

Since the outfall is below the Buckhorn Dam at the south border, no “pollution” will go into the lake.  Runoff from within our broders will pollute the lake more than the WWP outfall would if it were running into the lake.  Our properties, highways, lawns, schools, towns and residential developments cause more nutrients and chemicals in surface runoff.  So do dead animals and bugs.  Air is made of 78% nitrogen and it makes its way into the water supply.  The next time your dog takes a pee or a dump, ask yourself where it goes.

And the joint Chatham/Cary land use area will benefit Chatham with taxes from the developed properties and infrastructure.  Development is coming anyway.  Why not have it done responsibly rather than piece-meal and individually.

Government is not all bad, you must know.  It provides basic services not available to citizens on their own.  You want its regulation in your statement.  The problem comes when it over-regulates and costs citizens and their employers more money than the regulation is worth.

One further comment:    EPA does not grant the power of regulation to DENR.  The combination of the Constitution, laws and regulations authorized by Congress allow for the states to regulate within their borders.  Those laws also regulate the EPA.

Another one I can not pass up.  The county has regulations on nuclear materials, lighting, radio towers, and water quality.  It does not have the staff, staff expertise or testing facilities to monitor or enforce its own regulations.  Those regulations refer to state laws and regs, which often in technical aspects, refer to federal laws and regs.  I ask the simple question:  If our staff can not monitor or test the water, radio waves, light frequency and level or nuclear emmissions with technical and scientific competence, how come we are employing them in the first place?  Why do we have such regulations for our performance standard?

These rules are best left at the state and federal level for want of resources and expertise.  And zero tolerance is neither a workable parameter nor a reasonable expectation.  It’s unhuman and inhumane.  We can argue decimal points all day long, but my momma always said, “Zero is as zero does – nothing.”

Tom Glendinning

BTW:    The old coal power plant, CPL/Progress/Duke, in Moncure is shutting down.  That should make you happy.  When the power shortage causes brown outs this summer, think of that.  If you want less pollution, use less.

“It takes an intelligent fool to make things bigger and more complex……….. It takes a touch of genius to move in the opposite direction”
You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take.–Wayne Gretzky

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Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 08:47:50 -0400
From: “DLyerly”
Subject: Southeast Chatham Citizen’s Advisory Council Meeting

The next scheduled meeting of the SCCAC is Tuesday, May 21st at 7:00 PM at the Moncure Volunteer Fire Department, located at the corner of Pea Ridge Road and Old US 1.

Randall Rigsbee, Managing Editor of the Chatham News/Record, will be the guest speaker.

The Southeast Chatham Citizen’s Advisory Council, comprised of residents and business owners primarily within Moncure, Haywood, Pea Ridge, Merry Oaks, Brickhaven and Corinth areas, was established in 2001 to provide a unified community voice directed at good planning and zoning and to present community concerns to county and state offices of oversight. We welcome and encourage participation of all residents, businesses and organizations within our community.

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Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 05:35:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Chris Warfford
Subject: Pittsboro Kiwanis Club – Ham and Egg Brunch Sunday May 19

This Sunday, May 19th, the Pittsboro Kiwanis Club along with the Northwood High School Key Club will be hosting a Ham and Egg Brunch to benefit Kiwanis International’s ELIMINATE Project.

The Eliminate Project is Kiwanis International’s global campaign to help eliminate maternal and neonatal tetanus from the face of the Earth.Â

Quick facts
• 1 baby dies every 9 minutes from tetanus
• 160 babies die each day from tetanus
• MNT has been eliminated from more than 20 countries since 2000
• A series of 3 doses of tetanus vaccine = immunity from tetanus
• Woman + vaccine = protected baby
• US$1.80 protects 1 woman and her future babiesÂ
• The Eliminate Project saves or protects 61 million women & babies

Brunch will be served from 10am until 1:30pm. The price is $8.00 per meal.   Take out and walk-ins are encouraged.  The brunch will be at the Kiwanis Club Building located at 309 Credle Street in Pittsboro.

Hope you
see you there.

Chris Warfford
Pittsboro Kiwanis

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Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 08:29:25 -0400
From: Bynum FrontPorch
Subject: Friday night at the Bynum General Store — Franklin Street  Traditional Jazz Band

Don’t miss *The Franklin Street Traditional Jazz Band* at the Bynum General Store and on May 17th. The Franklin Street Traditional Jazz Band is a relatively new, eight-member band formed by musicians from throughout the Triangle Area who share an interest in the early form of jazz, principally as it emerged in New Orleans at the beginning of the last century.  The band offers a varied program of classic acoustic jazz featuring recognizable melodies of interest to audiences of all ages.  Their music is both toe-tapping and dance-inducing, or just comfortable for listening or singing along. (www.franklinstreettraditionaljazzband.com)

As always, Barney’s Famous Hot Dogs & Snacks and Little Dippers Italian Ice will be on hand to provide great food and beverages.

Many thanks to *Zambamboogee* for their performance last week!

Next up. . .  *Boys From Carolina* on May 24th.

A few things we’d like you to know about the Front Porch Music Series and
the Bynum General Store:
1.  The Bynum General Store is an alcohol-free venue.
2.  For safety, please make sure that children are supervised by an adult
at all times.
3.  We respectfully ask that all pets be left at home.
4.  The show goes on, rain or shine.  If it rains, we’ll move indoors.

The Friday Night Music Series runs from May through the end of August from
7 pm to 9 pm every Friday night.  Although tickets aren’t required, we pass
the hat and encourage a $5 to $7 donation to compensate the performers.  To
check out the rest of the amazing bands playing this season, please visit
our website at www.bynumfrontporch.org.  Also, find Bynum Front Porch on
Facebook (www.facebook.com/bynumfrontporch) and follow us on Twitter.  And
visit our sponsors Auto Pro, Hall-Wynne Funeral Services and Hope Crossing
Animal Hospital to thank them for their support!

Don’t forget Bingo Night is the first Saturday of each month and doors open at 6:30 pm.  We also have the Bynum Front Porch Pickin’ every second and fourth Saturday each month from 10am to 1pm.

The Bynum General Store is located at 950 Bynum Road in beautiful downtown Bynum.  We look forward to seeing old friends and new faces Friday night!

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Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 08:11:18 -0400
From: Jeffrey Towson
Subject: This Week @ The City Tap

Good morning Chatlisters!  Check out this weeks lineup of great live music!

*Wednesday @ 8:30 PM – Open Mic*
Open mic Wednesdays are a fun night and great way to get out and hear some of the awesome local talent here in PBO, as well as enjoy $1 off all drafts!

*Thursday @ 8:30 PM – Pete O’Dea*
Pete O’Dea brings you an acoustic mix of rock, classic hits and songs you know by heart.  Pete beats the guitar strings and sounds like percussion section all on his own with the accompaniment of a loop pedal, driving style, energy and enthusiasm to every song.

Pete O’Dea <http://www.reverbnation.com/peterodea>

*Friday @ 8:30 PM – Sarah Shook & The Devil*
Sarah Shook is known for scorching country originals, belting out Hank Williams numbers with ease and drinking Kentucky straight bourbon whiskey by the half gallon.  Jon Baughman has become a force to be reckoned with when he slaps that 1964 Kay bass and clicks them strings til you just can’t take the heat.  Eric Peterson’s guitar and Phil Sullivan’s lap steel harmonies are so tight they ain’t got an inch of daylight betwixt them. Son, if you like smokin’ vocals, savory lap steel, badass bass and come-on-back-y’all geetar, you’ll be so damn pleased you’d sell your soul just to hear a hair more.

Sarah Shook & The Devil <http://www.reverbnation.com/sarahshook>

*Saturday @ 8:30 PM – Andy Coats & the Bankwalkers*
Andy Coats & the Bank Walkers was formed in mid-2007, starting off as a trio, and then developing into a 4 piece powerhouse. They have an extremely broad range of influences, all of which meld together into a genre that
Andy calls “R, R, and B” – Roots, Rock, and Blues. This includes everything from gut-bucket blues songs a la Charley Patton to Beatles-tinged originals like “Ho Hum”.  Though not easy to categorize, the Bank Walkers pride
themselves on the versatility and energy they bring to their songs and their performances. You’ll be surprised at the ease with which they go from Piedmont Blues to Gypsy Jazz, and then start all over again….

Andy Coats & the Bankwalkers<http://www.myspace.com/andycoatsandthebankwalkers>

See ya there!

The City Tap

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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:21:31 -0400
From: Ben Maschal
Subject: Anonymous follow up

First, I understand Gene’s reasoning on continuing anonymous speech on the Chatlist. Protecting unpopular speech, such as that of whistle blowers, is indeed a valid concern. Further, it is his list, and I respect his right to administer it as he sees fit.

However, Cryptic, I must say, such noble protections do not apply to the sort of things we see from you. Certainly, your opinions are reasoned, and indeed backed up with facts (such as the recent smart meter post). They’re not even particularly “unpopular” opinions. But, they’re consistently set forth with snark, bile, and gratuitous nastiness. To me, this is the very definition of trolling, and I certainly understand why you wouldn’t want your customers knowing you were behind them.

I was simply fed up with reading it. That was the only reason behind my original post.

I suppose I just have to resist taking the bait. I should know by now that some people enjoy being a jerk on the internet.

Ben

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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 20:16:10 -0400
From: “John R Dykers
Subject: anonymity

Having written for a statewide publication under a pseudonym, I recognize the tradeoffs involved with signing our posts with our real names.

The difference seems to be that an “argument” is intended to be “won” and a discussion in intended to lead to a new synthesis. There is a different tone.

Sometimes we are so busy being opinionated we neglect to be thoughtful.

Learning is difficult because it means giving up some of what we formerly believed to be true.But learning is also fun, and I am so thankful for the thoughtful chatlisters who have added so much to my learning.
John Dykers

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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 18:43:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: deloispopp
Subject: Thanks to Gene

I have been reading the Chatlist for approximately 2 months and have found good information that I might not have known about otherwise.  It serves as a good what’s happening “daily newsletter”….

However, with that being said, when I first started reading the chatlist -  it was the on-going bickering back and forth about the cat shelter and a woman’s efforts to help the stray and unwanted cats.  Then some of the ridiculous chit-chat about the “meters” — information that is good and important, but it seemed that there was always someone who wanted to impress us (i.e., had actually done more Internet research to become so-called – self proclaimed experts) that they knew more than the persons who posted the day before!  And then, the dogs !!  Oh my, the dogs… aren’t we all tired of that one??

Thank you Gene for putting an end to the dog tethering daily commentary.  Thanks for referring those people obsessed with this subject to other web sites.  This is not say that these are not all important issues that need to be addressed and passed along, but enough is enough…  I personally was getting pretty sick and tired of the boring commentary.  Again thank you Gene !!

I do have a great idea/cause we can all hook our wagon onto next, and I really don’t think Gene would put a stop to it!!.. I don’t think there would be a time that too much can be said, too many suggestions offered, or too much good information can be addressed to help what I, and am sure others, consider to be as important, if not more so, than the tethered dogs’, or the unfortunate cats’ fate, or what the “meters” are doing to us.

Let’s see how many good ideas can be thrown out there from anyone/everyone who can suggest ways that the members of the Chatlist can help in a more important issue that faces us… What can we do as individuals do to help those 1 out of 5 children in our county who go to bed each night hungry????  or the 1 out of 6 people in this country that go to bed hungry each night???  (maybe one fight at a time, but there are also a lot of neglected and abused children in our county also.)

It is sad that the only food some of our defenseless children (right here in Chatham County) have is what they get at school, and what a group of caring teachers and parents do to send food home with some children so they have something to eat at nights and during the weekends.

With school soon coming to a close for the summer.?  What are these children going to do?  I ask this question because I do not know the answer.  I am sure there are some readers  – teachers, parents, social workers  on the chatlist – that are affiliated with organizations, programs, etc. that can pass along information on how we can all help.  Just think what a  membership such as the chatlist with over 4,000 readers, could do to help right here in Chatham County, right now… Even if each one of us only made one small effort to improve this situation in our own community  — what a difference it would make to so many innocent lives.  Look at your child, grandchild and picture them in that same situation — it will break your heart, as it should – and I am sure if you were unable to do anything about it, you would be grateful for the help of others.

I would love to see some good ideas/information put forth on the chatlist,  because I would like to help in some way but don’t exactly know where to start. I am sure there are others of you who would like to help also and some good information/input/leads from our more knowledgeable readers would be helpful.

Thanks.

Phreddie DeLois Popp

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Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 21:20:56 -0400
From: “Michael Kirkman”
Subject: The  Mayor

Chatham Chatlist #4641 Mayor Voller  should definitely watch what he says but he is like a lot of NC folks who do not understand why REpubs want to pass an anti-renewable energy bill among with other wacko things (if you can’t take a drug test yourself then why require others to do it). 

It is all about free markets but if I have extra solar electricity in my house I am not allowed to sell it back to Duke Energy (even at wholesale prices). I sympathize with him but all I can do is vote.

I have said some things in the past that I am not proud of and I am sure I have used some inappropriate language.  Everybody does but when you are a politico, all eyes are on you.  Keep your eyes open on both sides of the fence.

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Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 21:18:15 -0400
From: Whatzup
Subject: Randy Voller’s unfortunate rape rant makes the Huffington Post

Oh great, now Pittsboro has made the Huffington post due to the the inept rape comment of one Randy Voller of Pittsboro
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/04/randy-voller-rape_n_3215792.html

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Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 16:42:35 -0400
From: hannah stewart
Subject: Voller is right to speak in exactly these terms

I whole heartedly agree with Chairman Voller. Any way he choses to broadcast the truth, what is important is to tell the General Assembly of the outrage we feel at their violation of trust in harming us, stripping our education system, and removing regulatory oversight.

This General Assembly has inflicted pain by refusing to expand Medicare funded by the Feds, costing NC the healthcare for half a million people, whose care will be transferred to emergency rooms, at taxpayer expense.

The General Assembly has denied the NC economy the infusion of unemployment insurance. It has stripped our state of protections to our environment by defunding DENR, and by fast tracking fracking.

Stam and Tillis have taken oil money contributions and propose to end thousands of jobs in the renewable energy industry booming in NC now.

One can only feel outrage and powerlessness in response to much of the legislation that has been approved by the General Assembly during the current session.

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Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 16:35:41 -0400
From: heidi johnson
Subject: Abuse of power is violation

As the Chatlist moderator and an anonymous poster to the Chatlist named “madkrowt” pointed out, the NC Democratic Party Chair and Pittsboro Mayor Randy Voller used the word “rape” to describe what the GOP is doing to the state and the people of NC. “Rape” is an abuse of power.

Abuse of power is exactly what I and many others (including the victims of sexual rape who’ve written Voller with their support) see going on in the Republican controlled NC legislature right now. The policy work being done on Jones Street will lead to suffering for women, minorities, and those who are vulnerable. This recap of recent bills proposed by the legislature illustrates this well:
* more restrictive abortion laws
* cutting benefits for the unemployed
* two-year waiting period for divorce – no exceptions for domestic violence
* raising class size limits
* ending teacher tenure
* inacting voter ID laws
* easing regulations on fracking
* ending a 6-year old renewable energy program by just asking for yeas or nays and not actually counting the vote

Some people may not like Voller, nor agree with what he said, how he said it, or the goals he’s working for. But many people share his opinions and appreciate this strong language to describe and bring attention to the destruction happening in Raleigh.

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Date: Mon, 06 May 2013 13:24:47 -0400
From: Donna Kelly <
Subject: EDC Conceptual Land Use Plan

The Chatham EDC has taken the lead on developing a conceptual Land Use Plan for Chatham County.This is not a detailed, comprehensive plan, but rather a review of where we are now and four generalized scenarios for
how the county might develop.

The Plan is online for review along with a survey to give your feedback.All plans have pros and cons and any future plan or development will likely end up being a hybrid of these scenarios but the EDC needs feedback on what you would like to see happen.Since they plan on reporting to the BOC later this month now is the time to get your input in.  I’ve heard several discussions of the process at BOC meetings and attended the EDC plan presentation in Pittsboro so this is my overview of the process and plan.  Please check out their website to read the full plan and fill out the survey to express your opinion.

http://www.chathamedc.org/news-outreach/news/conceptual-land-use-plan-scenarios-maps-and-survey-now-online

The EDC Plan starts by giving an overview of current conditions and an explanation of the guiding principles used to develop and rate the scenarios.The 5-year base map is a snapshot of current and approved development, infrastructure, and land use regulations.This map pulls together various existing pieces into one easy to use tool.  Currently the majority of Chatham residents work and shop outside the county.Residential property makes up 91% of our tax base with commercial/industrial property making up only 9%.This puts an excessive tax burden on individual landowners and families.The EDC ratings emphasize creating a more balanced mix of land uses.

The four scenarios assume current Land Use regulations remain in place unless alternatives are specified.  Additional regulations and/or incentives would be needed to develop an actual plan to guide development in scenarios 2 through 4.  A comprehensive plan would likely contain elements from more than one of these scenarios but these were developed to highlight the pros and cons of focusing on specific concepts.

 1. Decentralized Growth — assumes little direction beyond current     regulations.Development will be driven by development pressure from     outside the county and will produce more residential development     spreading west from the Northeast corner of the county toward     NC87.There would be little commercial/industrial development.

 2. Conservation/Farmland Preservation –focuses on additional land use     regulations to expand environmental regulations.While there would be     little additional commercial/industrial development there would be     strong conservation protections.

 3. Compact Centers and Growth Corridors — focuses on creating compact     growth centers for mixed-use development.These would mostly be     located on existing developments and would focus on retail and
    service employment.

 4. Targeted Employment — focuses on more aggressive efforts to attract     large employers so more Chatham residents could find employment in     the county.Development efforts would be centered in Pittsboro and
    Siler City to build on existing infrastructure.

The county does have a number of plans that guide development decisions including a Land Conservation and Development Plan. These plans can be found on the county’s website.

http://www.chathamnc.org/Index.aspx?page=441

Donna Kelly

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Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 13:56:30 +0000
From: “Ritter, Ann”
Subject: please post

Sharing Our Stories, an 8 week grief support group sponsored by UNC Hospice will be offered Wednesday mornings from 10:00 – 11:30 a.m. May 15 – July 3..  The group meets at the UNC Hospice Offices, 480 Hillsboro Street, Pittsboro.  The group is open to anyone who has experienced a loss.  Space is limited.  Please contact Ann Ritter, 919.542.5545 or aritter@unch.unc.edu for further information and to register.

Ann

Ann Ritter, MA, ThM
Pastoral and Grief Counselor
UNC Hospice
480 Hillsboro Street
Suite 800
P.O. Box 1077
Pittsboro, NC  27312
919.542.5545
aritter@unch.unc.edu

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Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 09:36:20 -0400
From: Melissa Whittemore
Subject: Recommending Pittsboro Auto Care

I wanted to give a shout out to Pittsboro Auto Care as they have been servicing my car for over year now and I am very pleased with their service and prices.

They are all great people and you can trust that you are receiving honest, decent service from them. Whether you need just a simple oil change, State Inspection, new tires or whatever your car or truck may need, they will get you in sometimes as soon as the next day. Give Cathy a call in the office at 919-542-5891 and she will be happy to schedule an appointment. She is a real joy to call any time I need help with my car. Besides, the last time I was in there, they were still selling Girl Scout Cookies in the office – YUM!

Thanks Pittsboro Auto Care for providing such great customer service!

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Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 16:20:13 -0400
From: Bynum FrontPorch
Subject: Zambamboogee at the Bynum General Store Friday Night May 10th

Don’t miss *Zambambooge* at the Bynum General Store and on May 10th.
Zambamboogee is a five-piece band that performs originals and covers from many styles of dance music. All members have performed in the Triangle music scene in solo and band settings for years. (www.zambamboogee.com)

As always, Barney’s Famous Hot Dogs & Snacks and Little Dippers Italian Ice will be on hand to provide great food and beverages.

Many thanks to *Malpass Brothers* for getting the season started last week!

Next up. . .  *The Franklin Street Traditional Jazz Band *on May 17th.

A few things we’d like you to know about the Front Porch Music Series and the Bynum General Store:
1.  The Bynum General Store is an alcohol-free venue.
2.  For safety, please make sure that children are supervised by an adult at all times.
3.  We respectfully ask that all pets be left at home.
4.  The show goes on, rain or shine.  If it rains, we’ll move indoors.

The Friday Night Music Series runs from May through the end of August from 7 pm to 9 pm every Friday night.  Although tickets aren’t required, we pass the hat and encourage a $5 to $7 donation to compensate the performers.  To check out the rest of the amazing bands playing this season, please visit our website at www.bynumfrontporch.org.  Also, find Bynum Front Porch on Facebook (www.facebook.com/bynumfrontporch) and follow us on Twitter.  And visit our sponsors Auto Pro, Hall-Wynne Funeral Services and Hope Crossing Animal Hospital to thank them for their support!

Don’t forget Bingo Night is the first Saturday of each month and doors open at 6:30 pm.  We also have the Bynum Front Porch Pickin’ every second and fourth Saturday each month from 10am to 1pm.

The Bynum General Store is located at 950 Bynum Road in beautiful downtown Bynum.  We look forward to seeing old friends and new faces Friday night!

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Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 11:47:45 -0400
From: rebekah
Subject: thank you to dogs off chains!:-)

hi, everybody:-)

i just wanted to say a huge thank you to dogs off chains for all their hard work, amazing volunteers and all the love that you give to this community:-)

daisy, daphne and rachel have all been enriched by your efforts…like a ripple in the water your kindnesses will spread further than you know!:-)

want to see something way fun?:-)…take a peek at these happy pups!:-)

http://www.dogsoffchains.org/

and while you’re there, remember that they have cookbooks for sale:-)

rebekah:-)

www.flowerox.com

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Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 14:34:12 +0000
From: Whatzup
Subject: Best editorial I saw about Randy Voller’s pile of BS

From Jezebel at http://jezebel.com/n-c-democratic-chairman-compares-gop-efforts-to-rape-492631705 , I found some of the best feedback on Randy Voller’s crude and socially unacceptable rape comment

There are so many ways to describe something unpleasant happening that don’t involve alluding to sexual assault that one might think politicians, in their ongoing effort to ingratiate themselves to the voting public, would just leave the word “rape” out of their vocabulary when they’re not, you know, talking about actual rape. Nope! Dammit, elected officials have to stir the people up, and the best way to do that is by using the most viscerally figurative language possible.

North Carolina Democratic Party Chairman Randy Voller resorted to such language when he addressed a room full of people at, of all places, the Democratic Women of Guilford County’s spring banquet Thursday.

In the News-Record’s follow-up with Voller, he said that, like the rest of his speech, the comment about rape was made “off the cuff” and he wouldn’t comment on whether or not it was appropriate. He did, however, offer a bizarre justification when the News-Record mentioned that, “given crime statistics and the likelihood that many rapes go unreported,” there might very well have been a woman in attendance at Voller’s speech who’d been sexually assaulted. Instead of simply saying, “Gee, hadn’t considered that. I AM SORRY,” he ventured into MRA territory:

“I don’t know that. Women and men are both victims of abusive power and violence. I personally could have been raped.”

Men and women certainly can both be victims of abusive power and violence, but why does Voller have to wade into hypotheticals here at all? Trying to diffuse a controversial word choice by suggesting that he “could have been raped” is bullshit, and it’s a guaranteed way to attract way more negative criticism to what may have, in truth, been a moment of rhetorical carelessness.

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Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 08:49:22 -0400
From: Michael Kirkman
Subject: We might not be getting raped–but we are being sent back in time.

Chatham Chatlist #4643Lyle Estill says it better than I could and I am proud to be a progressive among a lot of folks that want to live in the past and have nothing better to do than attack those that want to change things for the better.

I do not understand why our government (local, state and federal) has become so partisan.  Go green and our life will be better and it does not hurt the economy.  It makes us all healthier.

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Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 08:36:31 -0400
From: sarah shook
Subject: Rape

It is a sad day when we are more offended by a reference to sociopolitical rape (which, according to Merriam Webster Dictionary was an appropriate use of the term in context) than rape by the sexual definition.  You are not
doing rape victims any favors by showing offense to a remark that had no bearing on their individual tragedies.

Perhaps we should be more offended by those holding office who declare that a woman who is raped will not conceive because her body has a way of shutting it down.  Or others that seem to believe the victim is at fault
for wearing revealing clothes or simply being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

It is that kind of remark and perspective that demands outrage.

-Sarah Shook-

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