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[mamacash]

Snowcamper and all, DO YOU PERSONALLY KNOW ANYONE CONNECTED WITH THE ARTS INCUBATOR?   I do, and as far as I know ALL of them live in Chatham County and some of them live within the Siler City town limits.  Several galleries and studios have opened because of the Incubator.  ALL pay sales taxes and attract people FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD to Siler Ctiy.

As an artist (not working at the Incubator) I find many of the posts here insulting.   I am not a pothead, I believe I am considered a good neighbor, and I have added revenue through sale of my work.

For REAL info. go here http://www.ncartsincubator.org

I find that it is insulting also to imply that all artists are potheads...you are probably a very good neighbor and I am sure you pay your taxes, what I don't understand is where is the mutual respect for our neighbors and our fellow Chathamites? What is the reasoning behind "dogging" a fellow business owner and what difference does it make if business owners are busy conducting their day to day activities in their establishments? Why does everything have to boil down to us against them? We as a county need to spend more time working together to further joint prosperity and less time minding each others business. Why have we become so jaded concerning our fellow Chathamites and when are we going to work together instead of fighting among ourselves?

[randy]

Again, having the right to do something and doing it are two different things.  Honest people, who really believed in "justice" would let the folks of Siler, and the folks in other parts of the county, be self-determinate.  They'd be free to vote and speak out on issues that directly affected themselves, but beyond that, they should mind their own business.

[Stargazer]

I am very pleased that the art community is growing in Siler City.  It is now
on our itinerary whenever guests visit or I am shopping for a gift.  The fact that I
can purchase an original piece at an affordable price is fantastic!

   "I went through town to see a naked blue lady on top of a building, a half a naked man and a naked anatomically correct statue of a man on a street corner and honestly was upset. I don't want my children to see such things in what is supposed to be a public place. I find it offensive. Is it better to be offended by art or annoyed with an eyesore of machine parts that are supposed to be outside a garage anyway?"

So would you prefer an anatomically incorrect statue?  It's a shame you won't
be able to "expose" your children  to great museums, world parks, or many churches/cathedrals.
And for the record those blue people look like modified mannequins (better not take your kids to
Belk's when they're changing outfits). 

[mamacash]

I am very pleased that the art community is growing in Siler City.  It is now
on our itinerary whenever guests visit or I am shopping for a gift.  The fact that I
can purchase an original piece at an affordable price is fantastic!

   "I went through town to see a naked blue lady on top of a building, a half a naked man and a naked anatomically correct statue of a man on a street corner and honestly was upset. I don't want my children to see such things in what is supposed to be a public place. I find it offensive. Is it better to be offended by art or annoyed with an eyesore of machine parts that are supposed to be outside a garage anyway?"

So would you prefer an anatomically incorrect statue?  It's a shame you won't
be able to "expose" your children  to great museums, world parks, or many churches/cathedrals.
And for the record those blue people look like modified mannequins (better not take your kids to
Belk's when they're changing outfits). 

I don't necessarily agree with the "blue folks" around town in the nude...no prude here.. but to me a small southern town may not always appreciate art....especially if it is supposed to be "modern art" which is probably the case as they are "blue"...and if I want to see modern art I can go to the museum in Raleigh...not downtown in Siler where some folks may be offended...I realize that they would be offended in some place like Paris or Europe in general but I figure they would know that before they took the trip...so it would be up to them to look or not. 

[WolfpackFan]

I am very pleased that the art community is growing in Siler City.  It is now
on our itinerary whenever guests visit or I am shopping for a gift.  The fact that I
can purchase an original piece at an affordable price is fantastic!

   "I went through town to see a naked blue lady on top of a building, a half a naked man and a naked anatomically correct statue of a man on a street corner and honestly was upset. I don't want my children to see such things in what is supposed to be a public place. I find it offensive. Is it better to be offended by art or annoyed with an eyesore of machine parts that are supposed to be outside a garage anyway?"

So would you prefer an anatomically incorrect statue?  It's a shame you won't
be able to "expose" your children  to great museums, world parks, or many churches/cathedrals.
And for the record those blue people look like modified mannequins (better not take your kids to
Belk's when they're changing outfits). 

I don't necessarily agree with the "blue folks" around town in the nude...no prude here.. but to me a small southern town may not always appreciate art....especially if it is supposed to be "modern art" which is probably the case as they are "blue"...and if I want to see modern art I can go to the museum in Raleigh...not downtown in Siler where some folks may be offended...I realize that they would be offended in some place like Paris or Europe in general but I figure they would know that before they took the trip...so it would be up to them to look or not. 

mamacash has provoked me to chime in.  As some might imagine, I get very concerned when people start talking about appropiate art, and where certain art should be located.  Personally, I feel that a lot of modern art is tasteless, and nothing more than an attempt to shock people.  The need to be different drives them to see who can be the "most different".  I don't know why people are get so offended by art.  Either you like it, or you don't.  And this comes from the parent of a 5 year old.  If my daughter sees something and ask about it, I explain it to her.  Most of the time, it goes unnoticed until I shout all my God, don't look.

[chrstnhsbndfthr]

Okay Randy, how did you manage to sign on as WolfpackFan?

I am very pleased that the art community is growing in Siler City.  It is now
on our itinerary whenever guests visit or I am shopping for a gift.  The fact that I
can purchase an original piece at an affordable price is fantastic!

   "I went through town to see a naked blue lady on top of a building, a half a naked man and a naked anatomically correct statue of a man on a street corner and honestly was upset. I don't want my children to see such things in what is supposed to be a public place. I find it offensive. Is it better to be offended by art or annoyed with an eyesore of machine parts that are supposed to be outside a garage anyway?"

So would you prefer an anatomically incorrect statue?  It's a shame you won't
be able to "expose" your children  to great museums, world parks, or many churches/cathedrals.
And for the record those blue people look like modified mannequins (better not take your kids to
Belk's when they're changing outfits). 

I don't necessarily agree with the "blue folks" around town in the nude...no prude here.. but to me a small southern town may not always appreciate art....especially if it is supposed to be "modern art" which is probably the case as they are "blue"...and if I want to see modern art I can go to the museum in Raleigh...not downtown in Siler where some folks may be offended...I realize that they would be offended in some place like Paris or Europe in general but I figure they would know that before they took the trip...so it would be up to them to look or not. 

mamacash has provoked me to chime in.  As some might imagine, I get very concerned when people start talking about appropiate art, and where certain art should be located.  Personally, I feel that a lot of modern art is tasteless, and nothing more than an attempt to shock people.  The need to be different drives them to see who can be the "most different".  I don't know why people are get so offended by art.  Either you like it, or you don't.  And this comes from the parent of a 5 year old.  If my daughter sees something and ask about it, I explain it to her.  Most of the time, it goes unnoticed until I shout all my God, don't look.

[mamacash]

I am very pleased that the art community is growing in Siler City.  It is now
on our itinerary whenever guests visit or I am shopping for a gift.  The fact that I
can purchase an original piece at an affordable price is fantastic!

   "I went through town to see a naked blue lady on top of a building, a half a naked man and a naked anatomically correct statue of a man on a street corner and honestly was upset. I don't want my children to see such things in what is supposed to be a public place. I find it offensive. Is it better to be offended by art or annoyed with an eyesore of machine parts that are supposed to be outside a garage anyway?"

So would you prefer an anatomically incorrect statue?  It's a shame you won't
be able to "expose" your children  to great museums, world parks, or many churches/cathedrals.
And for the record those blue people look like modified mannequins (better not take your kids to
Belk's when they're changing outfits). 

I don't necessarily agree with the "blue folks" around town in the nude...no prude here.. but to me a small southern town may not always appreciate art....especially if it is supposed to be "modern art" which is probably the case as they are "blue"...and if I want to see modern art I can go to the museum in Raleigh...not downtown in Siler where some folks may be offended...I realize that they would be offended in some place like Paris or Europe in general but I figure they would know that before they took the trip...so it would be up to them to look or not. 

mamacash has provoked me to chime in.  As some might imagine, I get very concerned when people start talking about appropiate art, and where certain art should be located.  Personally, I feel that a lot of modern art is tasteless, and nothing more than an attempt to shock people.  The need to be different drives them to see who can be the "most different".  I don't know why people are get so offended by art.  Either you like it, or you don't.  And this comes from the parent of a 5 year old.  If my daughter sees something and ask about it, I explain it to her.  Most of the time, it goes unnoticed until I shout all my God, don't look.

Sorry I provoked you there Wolfie....I just get tired of folks thinking that their shock value is something I want to view in public...if you want to put some art out in public at least make it age appropriate and also WHY put out art that is going to offend some people...why not work together to have a vital downtown everyone can enjoy...not just the so-called "avant-garde".

[WolfpackFan]

I am very pleased that the art community is growing in Siler City.  It is now
on our itinerary whenever guests visit or I am shopping for a gift.  The fact that I
can purchase an original piece at an affordable price is fantastic!

   "I went through town to see a naked blue lady on top of a building, a half a naked man and a naked anatomically correct statue of a man on a street corner and honestly was upset. I don't want my children to see such things in what is supposed to be a public place. I find it offensive. Is it better to be offended by art or annoyed with an eyesore of machine parts that are supposed to be outside a garage anyway?"

So would you prefer an anatomically incorrect statue?  It's a shame you won't
be able to "expose" your children  to great museums, world parks, or many churches/cathedrals.
And for the record those blue people look like modified mannequins (better not take your kids to
Belk's when they're changing outfits). 

I don't necessarily agree with the "blue folks" around town in the nude...no prude here.. but to me a small southern town may not always appreciate art....especially if it is supposed to be "modern art" which is probably the case as they are "blue"...and if I want to see modern art I can go to the museum in Raleigh...not downtown in Siler where some folks may be offended...I realize that they would be offended in some place like Paris or Europe in general but I figure they would know that before they took the trip...so it would be up to them to look or not. 

mamacash has provoked me to chime in.  As some might imagine, I get very concerned when people start talking about appropiate art, and where certain art should be located.  Personally, I feel that a lot of modern art is tasteless, and nothing more than an attempt to shock people.  The need to be different drives them to see who can be the "most different".  I don't know why people are get so offended by art.  Either you like it, or you don't.  And this comes from the parent of a 5 year old.  If my daughter sees something and ask about it, I explain it to her.  Most of the time, it goes unnoticed until I shout all my God, don't look.

Sorry I provoked you there Wolfie....I just get tired of folks thinking that their shock value is something I want to view in public...if you want to put some art out in public at least make it age appropriate and also WHY put out art that is going to offend some people...why not work together to have a vital downtown everyone can enjoy...not just the so-called "avant-garde".

Don't worry, I am just pulling your cord a little.

The simple answer is that you and I may disagree on what is appropiate, and then trouble starts.  As for why they need to shock people, I don't know.  All I know about art is that you have to be controversial, and dead, to be famous.  To this day, I don't understand why anyone would pay millions for a Picasso.

[mamacash]

I am very pleased that the art community is growing in Siler City.  It is now
on our itinerary whenever guests visit or I am shopping for a gift.  The fact that I
can purchase an original piece at an affordable price is fantastic!

   "I went through town to see a naked blue lady on top of a building, a half a naked man and a naked anatomically correct statue of a man on a street corner and honestly was upset. I don't want my children to see such things in what is supposed to be a public place. I find it offensive. Is it better to be offended by art or annoyed with an eyesore of machine parts that are supposed to be outside a garage anyway?"

So would you prefer an anatomically incorrect statue?  It's a shame you won't
be able to "expose" your children  to great museums, world parks, or many churches/cathedrals.
And for the record those blue people look like modified mannequins (better not take your kids to
Belk's when they're changing outfits). 

I don't necessarily agree with the "blue folks" around town in the nude...no prude here.. but to me a small southern town may not always appreciate art....especially if it is supposed to be "modern art" which is probably the case as they are "blue"...and if I want to see modern art I can go to the museum in Raleigh...not downtown in Siler where some folks may be offended...I realize that they would be offended in some place like Paris or Europe in general but I figure they would know that before they took the trip...so it would be up to them to look or not. 

mamacash has provoked me to chime in.  As some might imagine, I get very concerned when people start talking about appropiate art, and where certain art should be located.  Personally, I feel that a lot of modern art is tasteless, and nothing more than an attempt to shock people.  The need to be different drives them to see who can be the "most different".  I don't know why people are get so offended by art.  Either you like it, or you don't.  And this comes from the parent of a 5 year old.  If my daughter sees something and ask about it, I explain it to her.  Most of the time, it goes unnoticed until I shout all my God, don't look.

Sorry I provoked you there Wolfie....I just get tired of folks thinking that their shock value is something I want to view in public...if you want to put some art out in public at least make it age appropriate and also WHY put out art that is going to offend some people...why not work together to have a vital downtown everyone can enjoy...not just the so-called "avant-garde".

Don't worry, I am just pulling your cord a little.

The simple answer is that you and I may disagree on what is appropiate, and then trouble starts.  As for why they need to shock people, I don't know.  All I know about art is that you have to be controversial, and dead, to be famous.  To this day, I don't understand why anyone would pay millions for a Picasso.

I knew you were pulling my leg but I agree with you Picasso was an interesting fellow BUT my true favorites are Salvador Dali and Monet... I also like several Dutch 19th century painters.

[Stargazer]

So, I guess Michelangelo went for "shock value" ...and of course he was a
"modern artist."

WARNING! the following link may offend some many people.

http://vlsi.colorado.edu/~rbloem/david.html

[mamacash]

So, I guess Michelangelo went for "shock value" ...and of course he was a
"modern artist."

WARNING! the following link may offend some many people.

http://vlsi.colorado.edu/~rbloem/david.html

I was concerned you would take offense to my post Stargazer...and please know I did not mean it as a putdown with different artists and their personal preferences...what I AM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND is why have questionable art on the main street of a small town when the best situation would be to work together....all businesses...to bring in the public to the area in question. Why cause more division in an already very divided community. Why not work together with mutual understanding and shared goals of downtown revitalization not isolation? Just askin' .....as for being shocked by any art...not me I have a varied appreciation for many styles of the arts and the artists both modern and classic.

[chathamartist1]

People, before you cast judgment I suggest you personally visit Siler City and view the art in question.  Then report back and say whether or not it is scandalous.  Am I to suppose that all of you support the criminals that broke into the Person gallery in order to destroy this very art?

Mamacash, do you really know that artists in Siler City do not show "mutual respect" for their neighbors?  I know MANY of them and do not find that to be the case.  Just sayin'

[mamacash]

People, before you cast judgment I suggest you personally visit Siler City and view the art in question.  Then report back and say whether or not it is scandalous.  Am I to suppose that all of you support the criminals that broke into the Person gallery in order to destroy this very art?

Mamacash, do you really know that artists in Siler City do not show "mutual respect" for their neighbors?  I know MANY of them and do not find that to be the case.  Just sayin'

I have no way of knowing if there is mutual respect between shop owners...which is WHY I asked the question? And I was unaware of any break in to destroy art...that is appalling and certainly not condoned by me and I am sure Wolfpackfan would not condone it either. If you can suppose that I condone crime because I asked if there was a chance for mutual respect and ability to work together it appears that we have no common ground for discussion. In fact in one post I said why not work together with mutual respect and in that statement there is no where that I said there was not any respect there.

[Stargazer]

So, I guess Michelangelo went for "shock value" ...and of course he was a
"modern artist."

WARNING! the following link may offend some many people.

http://vlsi.colorado.edu/~rbloem/david.html

I was concerned you would take offense to my post Stargazer...and please know I did not mean it as a putdown with different artists and their personal preferences...what I AM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND is why have questionable art on the main street of a small town when the best situation would be to work together....all businesses...to bring in the public to the area in question. Why cause more division in an already very divided community. Why not work together with mutual understanding and shared goals of downtown revitalization not isolation? Just askin' .....as for being shocked by any art...not me I have a varied appreciation for many styles of the arts and the artists both modern and classic.

Mamacash, I respect you (and usually agree with you), but I must digress on this issue.  I think the incubator and
new galleries have been nothing but good for downtown Siler City.  Not long ago it was dying.  Now it has energy and
is actually drawing visitors.   We now have an outdoor stage, benches, people, and unique things to buy!
Instead of trying to drive these people out, I think we should welcome more!  They have only added to the town.

[natvrabit]

Thank you ChathamArtist..at least the downtown Siler area is becoming occupied by humans instead of rat infested storage facilities. I know a mix of businesses can co-exist there...they did for decades. These are particularly hard times for ANY business to survive.
This venue isn't going to "make up" for the loss of jobs in a mftg. plant for sure, but it is some vitality and it is a drawing card to build on for the different sort of future this country is facing.
FACE IT...manufacturing lifestyle by and large is GONE from this country...county. Be GLAD for whatever exists and survives and help to tote the load...

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