I live in the town, not the county. I don't need county cops' protection and shouldn't have to pay for it

[Linda Felt]

I live in the town, not the county.  I don't need county cops' protection and shouldn't have to pay for it.

Come to think of it, I never did like that Iraq War.  It hasn't helped me one bit.  I don't think I'll pay to support it any more.

[snowcamper]

Sometimes, it just not worth arguing with people who know they're wrong, but won't admit it.

Every citizen of Chatham County benefits from the Sheriff, even those like Linda who live in Town.  Without them, we'd have criminal hordes outside the town and she'd have to deal with them when they came to visit.

Kind of like the objective in Iraq.  We can attract and fight the muslim extremists who wish us harm here, or we can make it easy on them and fight them in their back yards, not ours.

Your example of bus service doesn't even compare.  This bus service, as proposed, would have been paid for by everyone, but only used by a select few.  The vast majority of people paying for the magical bus would never, or extremely rarely, have cause to use it.

Your straw man just caught fire and turned to ashes.  I wouldn't put another one up.

CR

[randy]

Sometimes, it just not worth arguing with people who know they're wrong, but won't admit it.

Every citizen of Chatham County benefits from the Sheriff, even those like Linda who live in Town.  Without them, we'd have criminal hordes outside the town and she'd have to deal with them when they came to visit.

Kind of like the objective in Iraq.  We can attract and fight the muslim extremists who wish us harm here, or we can make it easy on them and fight them in their back yards, not ours.

Your example of bus service doesn't even compare.  This bus service, as proposed, would have been paid for by everyone, but only used by a select few.  The vast majority of people paying for the magical bus would never, or extremely rarely, have cause to use it.

Your straw man just caught fire and turned to ashes.  I wouldn't put another one up.

CR

[Muddylaces]

I live in the town, not the county.  I don't need county cops' protection and shouldn't have to pay for it.

Come to think of it, I never did like that Iraq War.  It hasn't helped me one bit.  I don't think I'll pay to support it any more.

I live in town, and I like that every time I leave my house I see a sheriff's car or a townie pd car.  This is one of the few things I don't mind paying for.

[randy]

I live in the town, not the county.  I don't need county cops' protection and shouldn't have to pay for it.

Come to think of it, I never did like that Iraq War.  It hasn't helped me one bit.  I don't think I'll pay to support it any more.

I live in town, and I like that every time I leave my house I see a sheriff's car or a townie pd car.  This is one of the few things I don't mind paying for.

I agree, it's why I do not mind having the feds pay to train some ICE officers in out county so they know the proper procedures how to handle illegal immagrants that have committed a crime, they go no business being here in the first place.

[Linda Felt]

Every citizen of Chatham County benefits from the Sheriff, even those like Linda who live in Town.  Without them, we'd have criminal hordes outside the town and she'd have to deal with them when they came to visit.

Holy cow - this one's a real doozy.  Criminal hordes.  Let's see how that one sounds again: criminal hordes.  You mean, like the Lord Humongous and his post-apocalyptic dogs of war?  Or maybe just Orange County commies?

So that I may be vigilant, where are these criminal hordes now?

[randy]

Every citizen of Chatham County benefits from the Sheriff, even those like Linda who live in Town.  Without them, we'd have criminal hordes outside the town and she'd have to deal with them when they came to visit.

Holy cow - this one's a real doozy.  Criminal hordes.  Let's see how that one sounds again: criminal hordes.  You mean, like the Lord Humongous and his post-apocalyptic dogs of war?  Or maybe just Orange County commies?

So that I may be vigilant, where are these criminal hordes now?

If you mean Orange county liberals trying to take over our county and bring in their agenda, absolutely!

[RJLeeb]

Every citizen of Chatham County benefits from the Sheriff, even those like Linda who live in Town.  Without them, we'd have criminal hordes outside the town and she'd have to deal with them when they came to visit.

Holy cow - this one's a real doozy.  Criminal hordes.  Let's see how that one sounds again: criminal hordes.  You mean, like the Lord Humongous and his post-apocalyptic dogs of war?  Or maybe just Orange County commies?

So that I may be vigilant, where are these criminal hordes now?

You do realize that the Sheriff also is responsible for all court duties (like delivering court orders, etc.) as well as court security and staffing the jail.

So, whether or not you want to admit it, you really do have a stake in the County Sheriff's department even if you live in the city.  Don't believe me?  Go to the county jail or the courthouse and take a look at their uniforms.

And your analogy is a bit off because of it.

[Kat]

I live in the town, not the county.  I don't need county cops' protection and shouldn't have to pay for it.

Come to think of it, I never did like that Iraq War.  It hasn't helped me one bit.  I don't think I'll pay to support it any more.

The same could be said by people who don't have kids but must still pay for education and schools.

[randy]

I live in the town, not the county.  I don't need county cops' protection and shouldn't have to pay for it.

Come to think of it, I never did like that Iraq War.  It hasn't helped me one bit.  I don't think I'll pay to support it any more.

The same could be said by people who don't have kids but must still pay for education and schools.

[seavey]

Sheesh, people, don't you recognize sarcasm when you read it? 

I know it's a little challenging now that the topic has been split, but Linda was responding to randy's comment that he wouldn't pay for public transportation because he wouldn't use it.  You can make the same argument for every single county state or federal service.  I don't ride the bus so I shouldn't have to pay for it is the same as I don't drive on that road so I shouldn't pay to repair it. 

There may be plenty of arguments against paying for a bus, but that isn't one of them. 

[randy]

Sheesh, people, don't you recognize sarcasm when you read it? 

I know it's a little challenging now that the topic has been split, but Linda was responding to randy's comment that he wouldn't pay for public transportation because he wouldn't use it.  You can make the same argument for every single county state or federal service.  I don't ride the bus so I shouldn't have to pay for it is the same as I don't drive on that road so I shouldn't pay to repair it. 

There may be plenty of arguments against paying for a bus, but that isn't one of them. 

may I clarify, most likely 95% would not use it, but that' just a figure I pulled out of my hat.  Why in the world does Rural Chatham need a bus service to Chapel Hill and again, if there's a demand for let, let a private investor take off with it. Burt hey, I'm not the one that shot it down or delayed the issue, I think the town board did that.  When the grants are gone and only a few folks our riding the bus, I don't want to pay for it.  You know, those midgets that know one can see while those empty buses pass by 

[hb727]

Sheesh, people, don't you recognize sarcasm when you read it? 

I know it's a little challenging now that the topic has been split, but Linda was responding to randy's comment that he wouldn't pay for public transportation because he wouldn't use it.  You can make the same argument for every single county state or federal service.  I don't ride the bus so I shouldn't have to pay for it is the same as I don't drive on that road so I shouldn't pay to repair it. 

There may be plenty of arguments against paying for a bus, but that isn't one of them. 

So Seavey, is your argument that as long as any service is called "public" and without regard to how many can feasibly or will use it, it should be funded by taxpayers, or do you have limits in mind?

[seavey]

No, I am merely pointing out that it's specious to argue that the county should or should not have a service because I would or would not use it.  I'm a firm believer in cost benefit analysis.  Personally, I would love to see more public transportation in the county.  I come from a big city where I took it nearly every day for 30 years.  But I don't know enough about potential ridership to say that the benefit would outweigh the cost or visa versa.     

[hb727]

No, I am merely pointing out that it's specious to argue that the county should or should not have a service because I would or would not use it.  I'm a firm believer in cost benefit analysis.  Personally, I would love to see more public transportation in the county.  I come from a big city where I took it nearly every day for 30 years.  But I don't know enough about potential ridership to say that the benefit would outweigh the cost or visa versa.     

OK, I think I understand. Your point is that when a person is just thinking that they will not use it rather than ridership,  availability, and benefit to the populace as a whole?

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