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« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2009, 05:48:07 PM » |
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Yes. All questions need to be on the table including what are considered investments versus costs or expenses and the external costs of our decision making. Perhaps oneday we will meet for a fruitful discussion. My family was and still is chock full of Rotary Republicans and FDR/JFK DEMS.
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« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2009, 05:49:32 PM » |
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Do away with all of it. LTT, impact fees, school tax in your property tax bill. Close the schools, admin. offices,sell the school bus fleet, fire those pesky sitters (read teacher). IMAGINE the SAVINGS!
Since they who create the need don't want to have to pay for it...HOME SCHOOL. Then folks without kids don't have to prop you up with need of a school for them.
Yes, this is sarcasm.
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« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2009, 05:57:29 PM » |
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I have read old articles where folks claimed "rural route" delivery was socialism!?!
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« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2009, 06:01:42 PM » |
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Do away with all of it. LTT, impact fees, school tax in your property tax bill. Close the schools, admin. offices,sell the school bus fleet, fire those pesky sitters (read teacher). IMAGINE the SAVINGS!
Since they who create the need don't want to have to pay for it...HOME SCHOOL. Then folks without kids don't have to prop you up with need of a school for them.
Yes, this is sarcasm.
Why is it sarcasm? Why not make education private and make parents pay for it? I am sure that people that move here and do not have kids would love to not have to pay fees to build new schools. |
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« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2009, 06:07:33 PM » |
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I have read old articles where folks claimed "rural route" delivery was socialism!?!
I think they might have been on to something when I see deficits the post office runs every year. |
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« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2009, 06:12:19 PM » |
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Do away with all of it. LTT, impact fees, school tax in your property tax bill. Close the schools, admin. offices,sell the school bus fleet, fire those pesky sitters (read teacher). IMAGINE the SAVINGS!
Since they who create the need don't want to have to pay for it...HOME SCHOOL. Then folks without kids don't have to prop you up with need of a school for them.
Yes, this is sarcasm.
Why is it sarcasm? Why not make education private and make parents pay for it? I am sure that people that move here and do not have kids would love to not have to pay fees to build new schools. Why would someone complaining about paying taxes/fees what have you for public schools to educate THEIR children want to pay for private school...if they COULD then I'd think their child(ren) would already be in a private school. As for people that move here, don't have kids I can't speak for. |
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« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2009, 06:16:42 PM » |
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I have read old articles where folks claimed "rural route" delivery was socialism!?!
I think they might have been on to something when I see deficits the post office runs every year. Yeah, I wish they'd (USPS) would go out of business too. No more bill arrivals, no junk mail, I'd even be willing to disconnect the computer to end the bill arrivals  If I want to know what's on sale at the grocery, I can saunter in there and see for myself |
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« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2009, 06:27:13 PM » |
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Do away with all of it. LTT, impact fees, school tax in your property tax bill. Close the schools, admin. offices,sell the school bus fleet, fire those pesky sitters (read teacher). IMAGINE the SAVINGS!
Since they who create the need don't want to have to pay for it...HOME SCHOOL. Then folks without kids don't have to prop you up with need of a school for them.
Yes, this is sarcasm.
Why is it sarcasm? Why not make education private and make parents pay for it? I am sure that people that move here and do not have kids would love to not have to pay fees to build new schools. Why would someone complaining about paying taxes/fees what have you for public schools to educate THEIR children want to pay for private school...if they COULD then I'd think their child(ren) would already be in a private school. As for people that move here, don't have kids I can't speak for. Maybe if we did not have to continuously pay more in taxes for public education, we would send our kids to private school. Some people can not afford to pay for both. Like I said in the past, give all the tax payers their money back and let those with kids make decisions for their children. |
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« Reply #23 on: September 22, 2009, 06:51:33 PM » |
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Do away with all of it. LTT, impact fees, school tax in your property tax bill. Close the schools, admin. offices,sell the school bus fleet, fire those pesky sitters (read teacher). IMAGINE the SAVINGS!
Since they who create the need don't want to have to pay for it...HOME SCHOOL. Then folks without kids don't have to prop you up with need of a school for them.
Yes, this is sarcasm.
Why is it sarcasm? Why not make education private and make parents pay for it? I am sure that people that move here and do not have kids would love to not have to pay fees to build new schools. Why would someone complaining about paying taxes/fees what have you for public schools to educate THEIR children want to pay for private school...if they COULD then I'd think their child(ren) would already be in a private school. As for people that move here, don't have kids I can't speak for. Maybe if we did not have to continuously pay more in taxes for public education, we would send our kids to private school. Some people can not afford to pay for both. Like I said in the past, give all the tax payers their money back and let those with kids make decisions for their children. Not going to hold my breath for my tax break to end the public school system. Nor do I think the modicum sum paid in by the general public would entitle many to the avenue of a private school. |
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« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2009, 07:08:17 PM » |
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If there are no fees and no LTT how does the NCHBA, NCAR and CCGOP propose to pay for new school construction in the future? If we select BONDS then the principal and interest will need to paid from somewhere--will that be tax increases? I would like an answer to this conundrum.
How about a true impact fee. Not a tax based on square footage of a house, or a tax based on the number of bedrooms, or a sales tax on real estate transactions. Does a three bedroom house have a larger impact than a 2 bedroom? Does a 4 bedroom have a larger impact than a 3 bedroom? Does a $400,000 house use 4 times as much services as a $100,000 house? The impact on schools does not come from real estate, the impact comes from students, therefore at least a portion of the revenue generated to build and maintain schools should come from students, not from arbitrary sales of property or values of those properties. |
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« Reply #25 on: September 22, 2009, 08:12:24 PM » |
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If there are no fees and no LTT how does the NCHBA, NCAR and CCGOP propose to pay for new school construction in the future? If we select BONDS then the principal and interest will need to paid from somewhere--will that be tax increases? I would like an answer to this conundrum.
How about a true impact fee. Not a tax based on square footage of a house, or a tax based on the number of bedrooms, or a sales tax on real estate transactions. Does a three bedroom house have a larger impact than a 2 bedroom? Does a 4 bedroom have a larger impact than a 3 bedroom? Does a $400,000 house use 4 times as much services as a $100,000 house? The impact on schools does not come from real estate, the impact comes from students, therefore at least a portion of the revenue generated to build and maintain schools should come from students, not from arbitrary sales of property or values of those properties. Details, details... |
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« Reply #26 on: September 22, 2009, 08:28:52 PM » |
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Most parents of students in the public schools do contribute money toward their own child's education. Crayons, pencils, pens, markers, paper, tissues, soap, hand sanitizer, field trips, musical instrument rental, posterboard, glue...things of this nature. They may not cost much, but I don't remember my parents ever being asked to provide the more basic of these supplies way back when, when I was in school.
I am very glad to have been able to be given a public education. It is good for society to educate all our children, regardless of their parents ability or willingness to pay for that education. I think if public education funding were to end, that money would just be shifted to our judicial system.
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« Reply #27 on: September 22, 2009, 08:54:01 PM » |
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Do away with all of it. LTT, impact fees, school tax in your property tax bill. Close the schools, admin. offices,sell the school bus fleet, fire those pesky sitters (read teacher). IMAGINE the SAVINGS!
Since they who create the need don't want to have to pay for it...HOME SCHOOL. Then folks without kids don't have to prop you up with need of a school for them.
Yes, this is sarcasm.
Why is it sarcasm? Why not make education private and make parents pay for it? I am sure that people that move here and do not have kids would love to not have to pay fees to build new schools. Why would someone complaining about paying taxes/fees what have you for public schools to educate THEIR children want to pay for private school...if they COULD then I'd think their child(ren) would already be in a private school. As for people that move here, don't have kids I can't speak for. Maybe if we did not have to continuously pay more in taxes for public education, we would send our kids to private school. Some people can not afford to pay for both. Like I said in the past, give all the tax payers their money back and let those with kids make decisions for their children. If a child attends private school, exempt them from school property taxes. If they do attend public school make taxes higher for the more kids you have. |
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« Reply #28 on: September 23, 2009, 06:05:39 AM » |
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If a child attends private school, exempt them from school property taxes. If they do attend public school make taxes higher for the more kids you have.
To be fair, would you then exempt all people without children from paying taxes that fund the public schools? |
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« Reply #29 on: September 23, 2009, 06:08:38 AM » |
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Why not make education private and make parents pay for it? I am sure that people that move here and do not have kids would love to not have to pay fees to build new schools.
So, Chris, if you run for mayor again, will you seriously make abolishing Pittsboro's school system a plank in your platform? |
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