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« Reply #30 on: September 23, 2009, 06:12:19 AM » |
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Also, make all renters with children pay a higher tax than those without, I do agree CB, once kids are out of school the taxes need to be removed. No one ever said raising kids was cheap.
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« Reply #31 on: September 23, 2009, 08:13:12 AM » |
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Why not make education private and make parents pay for it? I am sure that people that move here and do not have kids would love to not have to pay fees to build new schools.
So, Chris, if you run for mayor again, will you seriously make abolishing Pittsboro's school system a plank in your platform? If I run for mayor, I will consider all viewpoints and input from the citizens of PBO before making a decision on any subject. |
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« Reply #32 on: September 23, 2009, 08:19:59 AM » |
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Cut out the bus, cut out the human relations director, cut out the non-profit contributions, cut out all of the studies (and just listen to your constituents), cut out things like the Parks department's new office space (use a cubicle, like everyone else), cut out the special elections...
Then see how much money you have. Cuts first...tax increases if that's not enough.
Our spending has gone up by >50% in 5 years... there is fat aplenty to cut.
I agree although I do support the bus as it brings Chapel Hillians here to shop. But there is way too much fat in the gvmt. There are redundundent studies from a lot of non profits and the county health office and they could just fund one. |
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« Reply #33 on: September 23, 2009, 10:05:14 AM » |
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I agree although I do support the bus as it brings Chapel Hillians here to shop. But there is way too much fat in the gvmt. There are redundundent studies from a lot of non profits and the county health office and they could just fund one.
How many of those Hillians have cars of their own and would have come down anyway, but find a $300k+ per year bus a more "patting yourself on the back" method of getting down here? Their anecdotal presence does not mean the bus is "worth it", it simply means they took the option to get here that someone else paid for. And if they can afford to shop in downtown Pittsboro...they can probably afford a car. Does an $8 meal at the General Store justify the massive expense? Or maybe it's a $3 slice of Pizza from Elizabeths...or a $2.50 icecream cone from S&T's... hard to see how the economics work out there... |
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« Reply #34 on: September 23, 2009, 10:29:42 AM » |
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If a child attends private school, exempt them from school property taxes. If they do attend public school make taxes higher for the more kids you have.
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Where does this end? Pay an admittance fee to enter the public playground? Pay a toll for every lap around the CCCC trail? Admission to the library?
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« Reply #35 on: September 23, 2009, 11:04:22 AM » |
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If a child attends private school, exempt them from school property taxes. If they do attend public school make taxes higher for the more kids you have.
Where does this end? Pay an admittance fee to enter the public playground? Pay a toll for every lap around the CCCC trail? Admission to the library? [/quote] Why not move more to a user fee tax system? |
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« Reply #36 on: September 23, 2009, 11:12:15 AM » |
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I agree although I do support the bus as it brings Chapel Hillians here to shop. But there is way too much fat in the gvmt. There are redundundent studies from a lot of non profits and the county health office and they could just fund one.
How many of those Hillians have cars of their own and would have come down anyway, but find a $300k+ per year bus a more "patting yourself on the back" method of getting down here? Their anecdotal presence does not mean the bus is "worth it", it simply means they took the option to get here that someone else paid for. And if they can afford to shop in downtown Pittsboro...they can probably afford a car. Does an $8 meal at the General Store justify the massive expense? Or maybe it's a $3 slice of Pizza from Elizabeths...or a $2.50 icecream cone from S&T's... hard to see how the economics work out there... Chapel Hill people love public transportation and take it if they can. It will grow as the corridor on 15-501 gets busier. And with all the ultra liberals now in Pittsboro and coming fast that is definate! |
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« Reply #37 on: September 23, 2009, 06:47:58 PM » |
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Where does this end? Pay an admittance fee to enter the public playground? Pay a toll for every lap around the CCCC trail? Admission to the library?
On the flip side to this question Why not do away with progressive taxes in general? Or different taxes and fees on vehicles based on weight? Or gas/diesel tax, especially the disparity between tax on a gallon of gas and a gallon of diesel? Everyone has access to the public playground, CCCC trail and library so we all pay taxes for them, everyone has access to the same roads so why am I charged more for my F-350 & dump truck tags and why do I pay more tax per gallon of diesel? Why not figure how much it takes to run the city/county/state/fed and then divide those numbers equally by citizens? |
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« Reply #38 on: September 23, 2009, 07:12:33 PM » |
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Impact fees are popular with both taxpayers who don't look at the long term effects and politicians because they shift the cost burden to people that have no voice in the debate – the people that haven’t moved here yet.
Fortunately many taxpayers are waking up and realizing that shifting the cost of unnecessary spending doesn't get rid of it and just leads to more unnecessary spending.
Still waiting to see if any politicians are waking up.
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« Reply #39 on: September 23, 2009, 07:40:56 PM » |
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Where does this end? Pay an admittance fee to enter the public playground? Pay a toll for every lap around the CCCC trail? Admission to the library?
On the flip side to this question Why not do away with progressive taxes in general? Or different taxes and fees on vehicles based on weight? Or gas/diesel tax, especially the disparity between tax on a gallon of gas and a gallon of diesel? Everyone has access to the public playground, CCCC trail and library so we all pay taxes for them, everyone has access to the same roads so why am I charged more for my F-350 & dump truck tags and why do I pay more tax per gallon of diesel? Why not figure how much it takes to run the city/county/state/fed and then divide those numbers equally by citizens? uh, big heavy trucks do more damage to the roads. houses with more bedrooms tend to house more children, which cost the county money to educate. |
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« Reply #40 on: September 23, 2009, 07:44:21 PM » |
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Apartments are filled with kids all of the time, people move out and in constantly with more kids. Howabout heavily taxing renters since they don't pay property taxes.
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« Reply #41 on: September 23, 2009, 07:47:41 PM » |
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Apartments are filled with kids all of the time, people move out and in constantly with more kids. Howabout heavily taxing renters since they don't pay property taxes.
actually, they do, in their rent to the landlord, who pays property taxes. or do you mean, tax rental income? |
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« Reply #42 on: September 23, 2009, 07:48:27 PM » |
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No, direct tax the occupants
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« Reply #43 on: September 23, 2009, 07:51:14 PM » |
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No, direct tax the occupants
they are too transient. it has to be the property owner. the kids tax the county's ability to supply education. tax the income from that. |
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« Reply #44 on: September 23, 2009, 07:53:35 PM » |
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Than heavily tax the owner for occupied units and he/she can pass it onto the residents. Earmark the money to the schools. This may give property owners some relief.
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