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« Reply #45 on: March 12, 2010, 08:30:02 PM » |
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having people in your business is a natural consequence of bad judgements
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« Reply #46 on: March 12, 2010, 08:47:06 PM » |
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No....people who think they do no wrong do this...they judge everyone else..it's sad  |
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« Reply #47 on: March 12, 2010, 08:52:32 PM » |
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it's human nature. accept it.
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« Reply #48 on: March 12, 2010, 09:05:57 PM » |
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If you had done this...right or wrong...would you want all these people in your business?? They both made bad judgements....it's there problem....give it a break...it's not you or your business.
it is becoming Highway Patrol policy. it is becoming our business, not the divorce part, but the Highway Patrol part. that guy was on the clock. that makes it our business. |
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« Reply #49 on: March 12, 2010, 09:26:32 PM » |
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No....people who think they do no wrong do this...they judge everyone else..it's sad we don't know anyone has done wrong. the husband has not been tried, that was my whole point. the Trooper says he was not in the house, and therefor not a witness to whatever happened between husband and wife. how can he be fired for not responding to an incident that has not been proven to have happened yet, or him a witness to? |
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« Reply #50 on: March 12, 2010, 09:28:05 PM » |
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belle, I'm sure there is evidence and testimony about what happened that is being factored into his case.
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« Reply #51 on: March 12, 2010, 10:03:48 PM » |
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belle, I'm sure there is evidence and testimony about what happened that is being factored into his case.
I am sure that will make the trial messy, when it happens, but it has not happened yet. how can he be fired? he says he stopped in to pick up some papers. is that a firing offence? |
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« Reply #52 on: March 12, 2010, 10:08:07 PM » |
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are you really dumb or just have a mental block about this particular issue?
the evidence and testimony was considered by the authority that demoted him.
the evidence and testimony was then considered again by the authority that fired him.
it is not necessary for the husband to be convicted before the evidence and controversy in the case to be considered by the state troopers.
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« Reply #53 on: March 12, 2010, 10:44:27 PM » |
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are you really dumb or just have a mental block about this particular issue?
the evidence and testimony was considered by the authority that demoted him.
the evidence and testimony was then considered again by the authority that fired him.
it is not necessary for the husband to be convicted before the evidence and controversy in the case to be considered by the state troopers.
think about it. it makes a judgement about the husband's case, which has not been tried. this reflects on the husband's trial, not tried yet. it assumes his guilt, which has not been determined, if the trooper "did not act" in an action that has not been proven. it is premature, at best. |
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« Reply #54 on: March 13, 2010, 08:03:04 AM » |
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"Patrol accused him of having an off-duty extramarital affair. A subsequent internal investigation also accused him of neglect of duty over the Aug. 14 incident, continuing to have contact with Jennifer Andrews while the internal investigation was being conducted, failing to activate his patrol car video camera from June 30 to Aug. 15, and using the patrol's communications network to obtain a criminal and driving record history at Jennifer Andrews' request."
Why was his patrol car video camera off for a month and a half? What didn't he want recorded?
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« Reply #55 on: March 13, 2010, 08:49:38 AM » |
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are you really dumb or just have a mental block about this particular issue?
the evidence and testimony was considered by the authority that demoted him.
the evidence and testimony was then considered again by the authority that fired him.
it is not necessary for the husband to be convicted before the evidence and controversy in the case to be considered by the state troopers.
think about it. it makes a judgement about the husband's case, which has not been tried. this reflects on the husband's trial, not tried yet. it assumes his guilt, which has not been determined, if the trooper "did not act" in an action that has not been proven. it is premature, at best. the facts of the case still exist even if they haven't been presented in court yet. the suspending authority can examine the facts even if they haven't been confirmed in court. The husband's guilt is not at question here, only what the trooper did. stop being so hard headed woman! |
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« Reply #56 on: March 13, 2010, 10:52:22 AM » |
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"Patrol accused him of having an off-duty extramarital affair. A subsequent internal investigation also accused him of neglect of duty over the Aug. 14 incident, continuing to have contact with Jennifer Andrews while the internal investigation was being conducted, failing to activate his patrol car video camera from June 30 to Aug. 15, and using the patrol's communications network to obtain a criminal and driving record history at Jennifer Andrews' request."
Why was his patrol car video camera off for a month and a half? What didn't he want recorded?
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« Reply #57 on: March 15, 2010, 09:14:32 AM » |
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I'm not sure if this answers your question, belle, but a criminal conviction and a civil fact are two different things because there are two different burdens of proof. Remember OJ? Acquitted in criminal court but found guilty in a civil suit. While a criminal conviction might help resolve any question in a civil matter about what the husband did or didn't do, it would not be necessary. A civil court (or, in this case, an administrative hearing body) could still make its own decisions about the facts.
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« Reply #58 on: March 15, 2010, 02:18:11 PM » |
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I'm not sure if this answers your question, belle, but a criminal conviction and a civil fact are two different things because there are two different burdens of proof. Remember OJ? Acquitted in criminal court but found guilty in a civil suit. While a criminal conviction might help resolve any question in a civil matter about what the husband did or didn't do, it would not be necessary. A civil court (or, in this case, an administrative hearing body) could still make its own decisions about the facts.
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« Reply #59 on: March 26, 2010, 10:55:47 AM » |
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The legal outcome of this case is the headline story in The Chatham Record March 25 issue. I have transcribed the first part of the article, but there is more in the print edition. I hope that all the parties involved can move on and recover from this. Andrews pleads guilty
Plea agreement concludes 2009 assault case
By John Hunter
A prominent Chatham County businessman accused last year of assaulting and pointing a gun at his wife pleaded guilty in a Pittsboro court on Monday.
Eric Andrews, owner of Realty World-Carolina Properties in Pittsboro, was sentenced by Judge Allen Baddour to two consecutive 60-day suspended sentences under a plea agreement. Andrews has now been placed on probation for three years.
Under the plea agreement, Andrews must continue with therapy sessions until he receives a release letter from his parole officer. Andrews must also comply with withstanding[sic] domestic violence protective orders taken out by his estranged wife, Jennifer Andrews, as well as child support and child custody orders.
In exchange, prosecutors agreed to drop felony second-degree kidnapping and strangulation charges against Eric Andrews.
Eric Andrews was initially arrested after visiting the Chapel Ridge home of Jennifer Andrews on August 14, 2009 where his estranged wife was living with the couple’s two children.
According to prosecutors, Jennifer Andrews, who is an attorney in Chatham County, was at the home with Anthony Scott, a recently fired NC Highway Patrolman who was then working with the Patrol stationed in Chatham County at the time. Prosecutors said Jennifer Andrews was helping Scott with legal advice with his own separation.
Prosecutors claim that Eric Andrews unexpectedly drove up to the home with the couple’s two children.
It was at that time Scott left the home through a back door and walked a distance from the home to avoid being seen by Andrews.
Andrews entered the home and accused his wife of having an affair, according to prosecutors. The couple’s two children remained in his car outside.
After denying having an affair, Jennifer Andrews claims that her husband came across a desk and grabbed her wrist, forcing her to the ground. When she looked up, she said that Eric Andrews had a .357 handgun aimed at her.
Prosecutors said that Jennifer Andrews shouted out for help from Scott, who was not in the home.
[Article concludes in the print edition.] |
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