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« on: February 05, 2010, 03:24:34 PM »

Chatham Offering Green Rebates

PITTSBORO, N.C.— The Chatham County Board of Commissioners has approved a building rebate program to encourage homeowners and homebuilders to include green building methods to conserve energy, protect natural resources and improve indoor air quality.

For eligible projects, builders and homeowners can receive a rebate for a portion of the building permit costs.  A homeowner or builder may receive up to $450 per home, or a total of  $1,000 per year for multiple projects.

The rebates are available to builders who qualify for the following green building certification programs:

    * Energy Star for Homes
    * NC Healthy Built Homes
    * Earthcraft House Program
    * LEED for Homes Program
    * NAHB National Green Building Program

Rebates are also available for those using green building techniques such as geothermal installations, solar electric or solar hot water, or passive solar designs.

Projects are eligible if the building permit was submitted on or after February 1, 2010.  Applicants will receive their rebate after the Certificate of Occupancy is granted and the builder has submitted the required  certification documents. Funds are limited and rebates are available on a first-come, first-serve basis.

“Providing incentives for green building will encourage energy savings and sustainable development,” said Commissioner Tom Vanderbeck, who serves as commissioner liaison to the county’s Green Building Task Force. “It also will enhance our economic development strategy to attract green industries and entrepreneurs.”

To complete a green building rebate form, visit the county website at http://www.chathamnc.org/Index.aspx?page=1208 . You also may obtain a copy or ask questions by contacting:

    * Sybil Tate, sybil.tate@chathamnc.org, 919-545-8302
    * Jenny Williams, jenny.williams@chathamnc.org, 919-542-8226
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« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2010, 04:21:44 PM »

This sounds like a payoff to campaign contributors.

I want a specialized, personalized rebate too!  But I want one because we plant a garden every year, and soak up lots of "greenhouse" gasses.

And I want one for my motion light, which saves lots of electricity, except when the dog/cat/deer/raccoons/bats/etc. are running around.

I also shut off my water when brushing my teeth, and turn off lights when I leave a room.

I must admit, Mrs. Camper doesn't believe in "if it's yellow, let it mellow, if it's brown, flush it down", so we return water to our well a bit faster than others might.

Oh, and I burn carbon-neutral wood a big part of the year, so that should count for something.

Add in the "he's just so darn good looking" rebate, and we'll be all set.

Apparently our County Comissioners are "so smart", yet they don't seem to be able to see through the whole "climate change" scam yet.  The evidence of fraud builds up every day, yet these folks apparently don't read those scientific journals, only the corrupted ones.  Hopefully, the elections will send these folks back to get some more "reading" and "thinking" in, their current jobs have corrupted their intelligence.
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« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2010, 05:06:47 PM »

This sounds like a payoff to campaign contributors.

I want a specialized, personalized rebate too!  But I want one because we plant a garden every year, and soak up lots of "greenhouse" gasses.

And I want one for my motion light, which saves lots of electricity, except when the dog/cat/deer/raccoons/bats/etc. are running around.

I also shut off my water when brushing my teeth, and turn off lights when I leave a room.

I must admit, Mrs. Camper doesn't believe in "if it's yellow, let it mellow, if it's brown, flush it down", so we return water to our well a bit faster than others might.

Oh, and I burn carbon-neutral wood a big part of the year, so that should count for something.

Add in the "he's just so darn good looking" rebate, and we'll be all set.

Apparently our County Comissioners are "so smart", yet they don't seem to be able to see through the whole "climate change" scam yet.  The evidence of fraud builds up every day, yet these folks apparently don't read those scientific journals, only the corrupted ones.  Hopefully, the elections will send these folks back to get some more "reading" and "thinking" in, their current jobs have corrupted their intelligence.

I looked up Snowcamper in the Urban Dictionary. This is what I found:

 hillbilly 
 -Apocryphal attribution to isolated denizens of Appalachian Mountains,(Eastern USA) descendants of some of the earliest Scotch-English settlers, who seem to have had some proclivity for naming their children "William" (familiarly "Bill")and some not inconsiderable inclination to incestuous sexual congress. More recently, the term is used to describe any rural resident,especially in the Southern USA and particularly those living in rather rough-hewn conditions, embracing noticably parochial ideologies and a generally hostile attitude.
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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2010, 05:34:12 PM »

This sounds like a payoff to campaign contributors.

I want a specialized, personalized rebate too!  But I want one because we plant a garden every year, and soak up lots of "greenhouse" gasses.

And I want one for my motion light, which saves lots of electricity, except when the dog/cat/deer/raccoons/bats/etc. are running around.

I also shut off my water when brushing my teeth, and turn off lights when I leave a room.

I must admit, Mrs. Camper doesn't believe in "if it's yellow, let it mellow, if it's brown, flush it down", so we return water to our well a bit faster than others might.

Oh, and I burn carbon-neutral wood a big part of the year, so that should count for something.

Add in the "he's just so darn good looking" rebate, and we'll be all set.

Apparently our County Comissioners are "so smart", yet they don't seem to be able to see through the whole "climate change" scam yet.  The evidence of fraud builds up every day, yet these folks apparently don't read those scientific journals, only the corrupted ones.  Hopefully, the elections will send these folks back to get some more "reading" and "thinking" in, their current jobs have corrupted their intelligence.


I looked up Snowcamper in the Urban Dictionary. This is what I found:

 hillbilly 
 -Apocryphal attribution to isolated denizens of Appalachian Mountains,(Eastern USA) descendants of some of the earliest Scotch-English settlers, who seem to have had some proclivity for naming their children "William" (familiarly "Bill")and some not inconsiderable inclination to incestuous sexual congress. More recently, the term is used to describe any rural resident,especially in the Southern USA and particularly those living in rather rough-hewn conditions, embracing noticably parochial ideologies and a generally hostile attitude.



I really hate to defend the camper, and I am certainly not defending his post, but snow camp is probably named after historical logging camps, located in the area of the current geographical local of Snowcamp. see also Union (bag) Camp, once owned and run by the union bag company and other camp-named towns across NC.

it goes back to the bad old days when logging for paper was so common in NC.

http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=19656
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2010, 06:30:53 PM »

Wow! I've evidently been living in the dark!
 
My initial reaction to the topic was a "That's nice--encouraging green building." Yeah, yeah, how naive. I've given it more thought, now.

But, hey, what's with the Urban Dictionary and hillbillies? I was born and educated in West Virginia and I don't lust for kinfolk, rub snuff, keep a fridge on my front porch, and I still have my teeth. (Well, most of them.)

Proud to be a hillbilly in spite of that definition from that GOOD FER NUTHIN' %$*@!? dictionary.
I ain't hostile, either.
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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2010, 08:21:07 PM »

This sounds like a payoff to campaign contributors.

I want a specialized, personalized rebate too!  But I want one because we plant a garden every year, and soak up lots of "greenhouse" gasses.

And I want one for my motion light, which saves lots of electricity, except when the dog/cat/deer/raccoons/bats/etc. are running around.

I also shut off my water when brushing my teeth, and turn off lights when I leave a room.

I must admit, Mrs. Camper doesn't believe in "if it's yellow, let it mellow, if it's brown, flush it down", so we return water to our well a bit faster than others might.

Oh, and I burn carbon-neutral wood a big part of the year, so that should count for something.

Add in the "he's just so darn good looking" rebate, and we'll be all set.

Apparently our County Comissioners are "so smart", yet they don't seem to be able to see through the whole "climate change" scam yet.  The evidence of fraud builds up every day, yet these folks apparently don't read those scientific journals, only the corrupted ones.  Hopefully, the elections will send these folks back to get some more "reading" and "thinking" in, their current jobs have corrupted their intelligence.

I looked up Snowcamper in the Urban Dictionary. This is what I found:

 hillbilly 
 -Apocryphal attribution to isolated denizens of Appalachian Mountains,(Eastern USA) descendants of some of the earliest Scotch-English settlers, who seem to have had some proclivity for naming their children "William" (familiarly "Bill")and some not inconsiderable inclination to incestuous sexual congress. More recently, the term is used to describe any rural resident,especially in the Southern USA and particularly those living in rather rough-hewn conditions, embracing noticably parochial ideologies and a generally hostile attitude.


 LOL Rolling LOL Rolling LOL Rolling LOL Rolling LOL Rolling

Looks like we found ourselves another Saul Alinsky radical!
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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2010, 09:17:33 PM »

The liberal problem is that there are lots of "nice" and even "good" things that we can be doing, but it doesn't mean that we should.

So let's dissect the "nice" idea of "green" rebates above.

First of all, this won't benefit a single current resident of Chatham County, unless they happen to be developers, whom most liberal label as evil.  So much for representing the existing people, whom they represent, of Chatham.  Why not give an across the board tax cut to everyone?  Why try, yet again, to pick winners and losers in the economy?

Secondly... I thought the schools were so hard up for money that they were cutting staff and services, that we needed a new tax to fund them (LTT), and that the county just didn't have enough money to meet our infrastructure needs... so now we go reducing our revenue from new homes??? 

Do "green" homes have fewer kids in the schools?  Do they require fewer fire, regulatory, and law enforcement services?

What benefit does the county receive from this???  What benefit do the taxpayers receive?  Who other than a few developers and a few wealthy remodeling something will ever benefit from this?

This is patronage, pure and simple.  It allows them to "look good" to current and potential donors, get some 'green' street cred, maybe pay off some of their biggest supporters... but does so at the expense of the rest of us.
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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2010, 11:49:07 PM »

Snow Camp was named after the site where Cornwallis camped during the
Revolutionary War (it snowed).
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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2010, 11:54:18 PM »

Snow Camp was named after the site where Cornwallis camped during the
Revolutionary War (it snowed).


yeah, I have read that, too. I knew it would come up. but given the many other "camps" in NC I have to go with the paper company theory.

I have already cited Chilton's story. here is another:

http://www.ncmarkers.com/Markers.aspx?sp=search&k=Markers&sv=L-16
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2010, 11:54:40 PM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_Camp,_NC

Anyone who lives in Chatham with a Snow Camp address should get a rebate from the county.
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« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2010, 12:10:45 AM »

personally, I thing it is wonderful we live in a region so rich in historical mysteries.
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« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2010, 07:28:33 AM »

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First of all, this won't benefit a single current resident of Chatham County, unless they happen to be developers, whom most liberal label as evil.
Anyone who is now or wants to build a green home will benefit, particularly those people who are their own contractors. Houses are built all the time by individuals. Furthermore, if houses are being built en masse isn't it a good idea to give incentives to build in a way that will benefit the home owner (energy efficient homes = lower energy bills).
It's not going to benefit a TON of people, but it is encouraging responsible, energy-efficient building.
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« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2010, 08:19:55 AM »

The bottom line is green construction is more expensive. Instead of having government subsidies the contractor or buyer should negotiate cheaper prices with the manufacturer of the products, no need for the public to subsidize private construction.
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« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2010, 11:00:02 AM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_Camp,_NC

Anyone who lives in Chatham with a Snow Camp address should get a rebate from the county.


I wish!  Then my taxes would be lower  Grin - course Alamance County
services are poorer.

Many Snow Camp Post Office addresses are in Chatham.

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« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2010, 11:12:31 AM »

Snow Camp was named after the site where Cornwallis camped during the
Revolutionary War (it snowed).


yeah, I have read that, too. I knew it would come up. but given the many other "camps" in NC I have to go with the paper company theory.

I have already cited Chilton's story. here is another:

http://www.ncmarkers.com/Markers.aspx?sp=search&k=Markers&sv=L-16

Yes, Cornnwallis got around.  But he camped at Snow Camp two days aftwer the battle of Guilford Courthouse in 1781.
An interesting sidenote: his men killed 250 sheep and 75 cattle.  Some axe marks from the slaughtering can still
be seen on the pews of a local church.
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