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dkemom2
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« on: March 01, 2008, 07:53:05 AM »


BOE Report: New Northeast High No Longer Valid
by goodschoolz
Facilities, Education, Regions (click for all), Chatham Central, Northwood, Northeast, Jordan-Matthews, GovernanceAdd comments
Board of Education meeting (BOE) February 25, 2008 at North Chatham School

The OR/Ed. group from NC State presented the latest school growth estimates which are lower than previous estimates. Among other findings, it said that, “Since the board recently decided to expand Northwood High to 1200 students, the new northeast high school is no longer valid.” When the board was asked to respond to this, board chair Kathie Russell said, “We’re not changing our plans,” meaning the board still intends to build the new high school (opening in 2011) and expand Northwood (completed in 2010).

The board has tried three times in the last year to expand Northwood and gain funding from County Commissioners. The latest expansion plan includes some renovation work. While all parents and citizen groups agree that Northwood needs renovation, the plan for expansion has been embroiled in controversy. This is because the new northeast high school will open a year after Northwood expansion is completed and half of Northwood’s students will move to the new high school. The current Northwood plan also includes much needed renovations to the gym and arts facilities.

Northwood Expansion Controversy
Parents have questioned expanding Northwood because it doesn’t solve the fundamental problems of two-hour bus rides (one way) and poor performance. They point out that expansion will only make these problems worse. Northwood is overcrowded now, but any expansion plans will only be completed right before the new high school is scheduled to open.

Other parents have questioned Northwood expansion plans because there are other schools with bigger problems that need long term solutions. North Chatham and Silk Hope are the most overcrowded schools with Northwood being third. While Northwood’s growth has been flat, North Chatham and Silk Hope keep growing and are more overcrowded each year. North Chatham is so overcrowded that, when the middle school students are moved to the new middle school at Briar Chapel, it will still be overcrowded. Silk Hope is overcrowded, growing steady, and there are no plans to fix the problem.

Northwood expansion advocates say that the growth in the Pittsboro area will fill the high school up in no time. They also point out that many students don’t go to Northwood because of the overcrowding problem. If overcrowding was fixed, it would see more student growth. The latest OR/Ed. study projects Northwood growth to remain flat for the next few years.

Many residents have moved to northeast Chatham with the promise that there will be a new community high school in the northeast where all the kids are. The Jack Bennett Rd. site was selected because it’s in the middle of all the new developments. Some have left the county as the new high school is delayed year after year, overcrowding gets worse, and scores at Northwood remain low.

The school population in northeast Chatham is composed almost entirely of small children. This is because North Chatham has a good reputation so parents with small children move into the area - even with the extreme overcrowding. Northwood does have a well respect arts program, but suffers from poor scores and overcrowding. Most parents with high school age kids refuse to move the northeast Chatham because of concerns over Northwood.

The Money
The County Commissioners committed to funding the new high school 2 years ago with a budget of $44 million. It is scheduled to open in August 2011. Last year, the board committed to building the new high school on the land it already owns on Jack Bennett road.

The budget and size of the new high school size was reduced last year to $38 million with 800 students and a core of 1200. The “core” is the cafeteria, auditorium, gym, restrooms, etc. The school board targeted the left over $6 million for the controversial Northwood renovation and expansion ($5.5M); as well as, expanding the cafeteria at North Chatham ($1/2M).

This year the County Commissioners restored the funding of $44.5 million to the new northeast high school. County Commissioners have said the Northwood expansion and renovation project will be paid for by increasing property taxes.

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dkemom2
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« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2008, 07:56:21 AM »


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BOE: North Chatham Parents Demand Overcrowding Plan
by goodschoolz
Facilities, Education, Regions (click for all), Chatham Central, Northwood, Northeast, Jordan-Matthews, GovernanceAdd comments
Board of Education meeting (BOE) February 25, 2008 at North Chatham School

Around a hundred North Chatham parents and teachers showed up at the school board meeting Monday and demanded to hear the plan for fixing overcrowding at North Chatham School. The new Briar Chapel Middle School was recently delayed a year, so major overcrowding relief is now two years away instead of one. Board members responded by saying they were playing catch-up and were dependent on the County Commissioners for funding. After parents spoke, board members did not offer any plans for managing the next two years of overcrowding at North Chatham.

When North Chatham School parents expressed concern about delays in school construction schedules, board chair Kathie Russell at first denied there had been delays and then seemed to imply it was the County Commissioners’ fault, saying: “We (board members) aren’t responsible for school funding. That’s the County Commissioners’ job. Talk to them about it.” This prompted a parent to go to the microphone to plead that the board begin to serve as an advocate for parents with the County Commissioners for needed assistance to the schools.

The school board and central office have been discussing several options to deal with the next two years of higher and higher overcrowding at North Chatham. The following ideas are being talked about privately but, so far, there have been no public discussions or engagement of parents.

Purchasing even more trailers.
Moving one or two grades to Cole Park Plaza (on 15/501) when Woods Charter moves to their new school this fall.
Redistricting some middle school grades to Horton Middle.

Public Comments
There was a public comment period at the beginning of the meeting and several parents spoke about overcrowding and the need for the board to communicate a plan. Each speaker got a loud round of applause.

Lawanna Goods spoke and made a point-by-point case for why a “pod” is needed at North Chatham to manage overcrowding over the next two years. A pod is 8 classrooms connected together and includes restroom facilities. The principal, Mattie Smith, has also recommended this solution.

Serena McClamroch spoke and said, “I don’t have a prepared speech, so I’m just going to speak from the heart. I’m fed up with the overcrowding situation at North Chatham. I can’t believe that 4 years after moving to this county we are still discussing the opening of another school.  Who’d have thought?!  I’m exhausted both physically and mentally!  I have spent too much time away from my family attending meetings trying to get the middle and high schools going…and it all feels like a waste of time!”

Mary Blythe spoke and said, “It is increasingly difficult to stay positive as a parent at North Chatham School, as well as a property owner in Chatham County.” She went on to say, “Will you (the board) be our voice to the Board of Commissioners, for the students and staff of North Chatham School. It is time to build the middle school.”

Flint O’Brien spoke:

I’m a founding director of GoodSchoolz and you may know that I’m running for School Board.

We’re here to talk about overcrowding. I also need to point out the fact that we had this same conversation in this same room a year ago. The school board promised solutions, but in fact, the situation has gone from bad to worse.

A year ago, you said the middle school was on track to open in 2009. Now you say it will be 2010. As you know, we are moving the middle school grades from this school to the new middle school to help with overcrowding. It was one year away. Now it’s two.

Why did this happen? We’ve heard a lot of excuses, but I do think it’s important for you to hear what informed people are saying: If the school board cared, or the superintendent cared, or the assistant superintendent of facilities cared; if any one of them cared, that middle school would be on time. No one’s saying individual board members don’t care. We are talking about the actions of the board as a whole. It’s not just me saying this or parents saying this; that’s what some of the County Commissioners say. They’re just as mad and frustrated as we are.

We just added 3 more trailers at North Chatham. They were supposed to arrive last August to relieve overcrowding. Then they were supposed to arrive over Christmas break because Virginia Cross opened late (last October). Somehow, no one even thought about moving them until December – that’s why they are still not open.

I could go on about progress on the new high school and similar issues, but I won’t.

We don’t expect perfection but we do expect to hear what the fall-back plan is. You knew the middle school would not be on time a year ago when you stopped the design process. You knew this more than a year ago and we still don’t know what the plan is.

This is déjà vu. We had the same conversation a year ago. I don’t want to be here next year having the same conversation about the exact same problems. We will not make any progress as long as this board refuses to do the most basic planning to dig ourselves out of this hole.

We don’t want secrecy. Tell us what you’re going to do and we’ll support you.

The current strategy of no planning and no communication is unsustainable. I have talked about North Chatham, but this is not an isolated problem. The entire county is clearly exhausted with this kind of behavior. We are angry and frustrated. Our organization, GoodSchoolz, has tried to push things along in a responsible way. Ultimately, it comes down to leadership and initiative. If this board is not committed to solving our problems, they will not be solved. There is no one else.

I must apologize. I did have some good things to say about the board, but you only gave me three minutes and I had to cut something out.

Board’s Response
After the public comment period, board members each spoke about the problems we’re facing and that we are in this predicament because of past boards. Many asked that parents talk to the County Commissioners to provide funding. Norman Clark and other board members made a point that they are working closely with County Commissioners to move things forward.

Kathie Russell said that the board is trying to be proactive in laying the groundwork for future boards. “We are working with the County Commissioners to find property for ‘land banking’ so we can pick up land now, at minimal cost, for future schools,” she said.

The Victims
After the board members spoke, North Chatham parent Dennis Jones said, “I’ve never heard a bigger group of victims. Nothing is there fault and they take no responsibility for anything.”

Flint O’Brien responded saying, “I was at the County Commissioner meeting last December and the commissioners asked the school board members who were present, ‘What can we do to get these schools built on time?’ The school board members were silent. Finally one school board member spoke up to say, ‘Well, now we know what the process is.’” O’Brien went on to say, “The current problems are not funding, it’s execution.”
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« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2008, 07:58:09 AM »

Building a school on Jack Bennet won't solve the bus ride problems, either.  They're still building his school, why does he care that Northwood is getting renovations?  When did these start getting called expansions, again? 

When they describe a school as having a certain capacity, that usually means they can hold that many with every room being used every period and a large number of teachers having to float from room to room, which has been the situation at Northwood for a long time.  More classroom space; particularly for science teachers who need to be in their rooms during their planning period to set up labs, clean equipment, etc; means less floating which DEFINITELY means happier teachers and better instruction.
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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2008, 08:04:05 AM »

The fact that this woman complains about spending time away from her family made me sad.  I can  remember that  same feeling  for the same reasons.  Even sadder is it was fighting for the same schools.

Truly, this is  not  just about funding.  This is about poor/no planning by the school system.

The current BOE is trying to play catch up and look for a superintendent at the same time. 

If these parents only knew what the old school board was like, they'd appreciate what 'little' they think they are getting from this one.

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« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2008, 12:34:57 PM »

Meg,

Thank you for copying these articles from GoodSchoolz.org, but I thought the BBS rule was to provide a link back to the original post. I'm glad you read GoodSchoolz to say informed.

You reference Lockwood in the title of your post, but his site is www.ChathamSchoolsNow.com. Many parents contributed to the articles, but Lockwood was not one of them.

Since you read both sites, perhaps you were confused about where you copied the posts from?

Flint O'Brien
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« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2008, 06:58:13 PM »

Actually, I didn't read it.  And sorry I confuse the two of you.  It's more of the old southern saying  'you lay down with.....

or 'judge a man by the company he keeps.'

or 'birds of a feather'.
 
I'm just not sure about where you're coming from flint.  There's just too much 'me, mine, my' in your recent past.
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« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2008, 09:28:37 PM »


I'm just not sure about where you're coming from flint.  There's just too much 'me, mine, my' in your recent past.


Come on Meg, you say that like you have never voiced an opinion. 

You have decided that you do not like the gentleman.  That much is clear.   

I have both agreed with you and disagreed with you at various times.   However, it is my view that you are wrong this time.   

Why the need to continue posting these personal critisms?  If you honestly believe Flint is wrong, let him speak and allow folks to come their own conclusions.   

Otherwise, the critique of "Me, Mine," etc. that you have attributed to Flint will seem misdirected.

I am convinced if a philosophy of no personal attacks took hold on this board, we would have the diverse discussions that those running for office have said they would like to encourage. 





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