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[Clyde]

Cross has not changed a single position that I am aware of. He supported all but one of the crazy schemes of the Coalition.  (Scuttling the Harnett water deal was too stupid and costly even for Cross to support!) But I suspect they return to him. Better to have a candidate that they can give orders to 99% of the time rather than one who would serve the whole county.

My bet is that in the end Starkweather and the other Coaltionistas finds a way to support Cross.

he hasn't changed a single position that you are aware of... not even the one you cite in the next breath. you are not much of a communicator or very dishonest or both.

[chrstnhsbndfthr]

Okay, well you have proven you know how to insult people. But for the life of me I cannot imagine what you think you were saying.  I stated facts and my opinions about them.  Nothing in that could be construed as dishonest by any reasonable human being. 

I am not sure why it was difficult for you to understand what I wrote, but let me try to say it more clearly.  Cross was a toady of the Coalition. The ONLY subject he disagreed with them on was the Harnett water deal, which he was right on for a change.  For that single time of not accepting orders from Starkweather they ran against him.  He did NOT change his position on that. He held that position with the previous board and he maintained that postiion with the current board, even though he was ordered to vote against it. It was only after this disagreement that he fell from Jeffrey's favor. Perhaps they have put the fear of Jeffery into him and he will be more compliant next time. 

It is my opinion that they would rather have a toady that got off the leash once on a single issue, than have an independently minded commissioner, so the Coalitionistas will have no choice but to return to backing Cross.  They will surely not accept the moderate democrat turned independent or Jeffery forbid, the Republican. 

[Clyde]

i suspect you'll say calling Sally Kost "a girl" or Jeffrey's girl is supposed to be something other than an insult to an woman whom you happen to disagree with politically? typical bs

[Clyde]

It is my opinion that they would rather have a toady that got off the leash once on a single issue, than have an independently minded commissioner, so the Coalitionistas will have no choice but to return to backing Cross.  They will surely not accept the moderate democrat turned independent or Jeffery forbid, the Republican. 

Cross has not changed a single position that I am aware of.

even someone as simple as you can see that right? since you're so above dishonesty you'll need to see your own error

[chrstnhsbndfthr]

It is my opinion that they would rather have a toady that got off the leash once on a single issue, than have an independently minded commissioner, so the Coalitionistas will have no choice but to return to backing Cross.  They will surely not accept the moderate democrat turned independent or Jeffery forbid, the Republican. 

Cross has not changed a single position that I am aware of.

even someone as simple as you can see that right? since you're so above dishonesty you'll need to see your own error

Cross DID NOT CHANGE HIS POSITION. He WAS ordered to, but did not.  I am not sure why this is so hard for you to understand Clyde. Perhaps you can work on communicating this to me. 

[Clyde]

Rightttttt, Cross got elected by backing the harnett water deal and vowing to vote for briar chapel. that's 2 for those of you keeping score at home.

[chrstnhsbndfthr]

Rightttttt, Cross got elected by backing the harnett water deal and vowing to vote for briar chapel. that's 2 for those of you keeping score at home.

Cross supported the Harnett water deal when it was voted in, and he supported it later when his lordship demanded a repeal.  HE did not change. The Coalition demanded a change but HE did not change.  Why is this simple concept so difficult for you Clyde?

[Clyde]

maybe because i'm honest and can read and remember what really happened as opposed to your version of what happened.

[randy]

Why is this simple concept so difficult for you Clyde?

[Clyde]

i guess that's just the way he is... oh you said simple concept not simpleton concept.

[chrstnhsbndfthr]

Aside from insults you have said nothing, Clyde. Exactly where is the statement wrong?

Cross voted for the original deal. He voted against the repeal, which is to say he continued supporting the deal, and though he was on the losing side the second time, he was vindicated by history when Holly Springs bought the contract we reneged on immediately and for more money.  It may have been the only thing the man was right on in his career, but he was right and he did not change his position.  Jeffery demanded a change, but he did not change.   Up until that time he had the support of the Coalition, which is to say Jeffery's support.  After that he and Patrick Barnes were persona non-grata.  This issue was the turning point.  I am saying I believe that Jeffery is smart enough to let it go now and go back to supporting his candidate, since he is guaranteed at least as good of compliance as he had before, and certainly better than he would get from an independent commissioner.

Try again, Clyde.  Explain to me why that was actually a change in position for Cross?

[randy]

We are waiting Clyde, having difficulty answering

Hmm, must of went fiddling to the great moon zombie in the sky 

[Clyde]

Aside from insults you have said nothing, Clyde. Exactly where is the statement wrong?

Cross voted for the original deal. He voted against the repeal, which is to say he continued supporting the deal, and though he was on the losing side the second time, he was vindicated by history when Holly Springs bought the contract we reneged on immediately and for more money.  It may have been the only thing the man was right on in his career, but he was right and he did not change his position.  Jeffery demanded a change, but he did not change.   Up until that time he had the support of the Coalition, which is to say Jeffery's support.  After that he and Patrick Barnes were persona non-grata.  This issue was the turning point.  I am saying I believe that Jeffery is smart enough to let it go now and go back to supporting his candidate, since he is guaranteed at least as good of compliance as he had before, and certainly better than he would get from an independent commissioner.

Try again, Clyde.  Explain to me why that was actually a change in position for Cross?

try reading  Reply #95 on: Today at 05:06:10 PM »

[chrstnhsbndfthr]

Aside from insults you have said nothing, Clyde. Exactly where is the statement wrong?

Cross voted for the original deal. He voted against the repeal, which is to say he continued supporting the deal, and though he was on the losing side the second time, he was vindicated by history when Holly Springs bought the contract we reneged on immediately and for more money.  It may have been the only thing the man was right on in his career, but he was right and he did not change his position.  Jeffery demanded a change, but he did not change.   Up until that time he had the support of the Coalition, which is to say Jeffery's support.  After that he and Patrick Barnes were persona non-grata.  This issue was the turning point.  I am saying I believe that Jeffery is smart enough to let it go now and go back to supporting his candidate, since he is guaranteed at least as good of compliance as he had before, and certainly better than he would get from an independent commissioner.

Try again, Clyde.  Explain to me why that was actually a change in position for Cross?

try reading  Reply #95 on: Today at 05:06:10 PM »

Try explaining what point you are trying to make and what that has to do with your contention that he did change his position.  I have gone over this carefully and repeatedly expanded on it, in an attempt to make it easy to understand.  Perhaps you could try to explain your position to me now?

[Clyde]

are you talking to me? you didn't use my name...

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