Chatham News/Record, 5/1/08 - Chatham Forest Delays Cause Concern to Engineer

[EEKaMouse]

This post is partially in response to the questions that several of you raised on the BBS regarding WHY some of the posters here have such scathing reviews of our mayor. Well - let's just say that the man can't quite seem to get his... ahem... stuff together.

Some of you have asked why people don't strike up a conversation with the mayor about these issues? Many people have tried that and have gotten the run around, or have just simply been lied to about the "when, where, what, and why" of the developmental issues, false promises, and violations surrounding his development of Chatham Forest, including, but not limited to:  What exactly is/was supposed to be on Park View Road, why did Voller spend Chatham Forest HOA monies to make improvements to a piece of private property that he owns, what are those DENR violations in Chatham Forest for, and why is he trying to make the residents and builders on Bellemont Rd. pay for his dad's company's sub-standard installation of the curb/gutter and 1st coat of pavement ?? And this BARELY scratches the surface.
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Unfortunately, a link to the following news article is not available online. However, you can easily request the May 1st 2008 edition of the newspaper, where this article originally appeared, from the Pittsboro office of the Chatham News/Record in order to verify (Their office is located on the NW side of the traffic circle).



In an article titled Chatham Forest Delays Cause Concern to Engineer written on page 16-B of the May 1, 2008 edition of the Chatham News/Record, reporter Bill Wilcox describes "delays on several projects in the Chatham Forest subdivision [that have] prompted a memorandum from Hydrostructures to Pittsboro commissioners".

(For those of you who do not know, Hydrostructures is the engineering firm contracted by the Town of Pittsboro to be the "eyes and ears" of the town, and to monitor all of the developmental activity and other infrastructure issues within the town.)

According to the memo given to the Pittsboro BOC by Hydrostructures, "there remain significant unapproved and non-compliant issues in the Park Access Road area, most notably for six unauthorized sewer services . . . there is not sufficient sewer allotment to allow for these services."

The article goes on to describe the Hydrostructures memo as stating that "delays in repairs for excessive settlement of the pavement on Bellemont Road have not been completed, " and that "the required repairs/replacement of curbs on Bellemont Road and Park Road have not been started and therefore finish pavement can not be applied . . . This situation should be monitored closely. . . Phase 9 sewer line addition has not been permitted by NPDES."

Bill Wilcox also writes that, "Voller said he plans to obtain the necessary permit and foresees no problem with his application being accepted.

But in a memo dated April 18 from Hydrostructures, it is stated that the flow has been introduced into Phase 5B and Phase 9 in a violation of the DWQ permit that requires that an Engineer's Certification be completed along with other documentation.

The memo states that apparently the entire project is in violation of DWQ permits and 'the State would consider these sections of infrastructure to be operating illegally."

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This is an ON GOING saga regarding the issues that our illustrious mayor continues to ignore in the neighborhood of Chatham Forest that he developed (and where he lives). For example, see BOC minutes with Hydrostructures' memo attached from 6 months ago, dated November 28, 2007:
http://www.pittsboronc.org/boc/documents/BOCMInutesNov262007.pdf

(Strangely enough, the memo from Hydrostructures for the April 28th BOC meeting mentioned in Bill Wilcox's article is NOT attached to the minutes online... Hmm... I wonder why?)

There have also been several other memos issued for the year 2007 by Hydrostructures regarding these issues - anybody can go to the Town of Pittsboro and ask to see them, and they are ALL PUBLIC RECORD. No baiting, no lying, no making up stories - just the "facts" that so many of you crave. GO SEE FOR YOURSELF.

Additionally, the Golden Fool on this BBS exonerates his highness the mayor from any wrongdoing while capping on Max Cotton (who I absolutely do NOT support, by the way), but the Golden Fool conveniently leaves out an explanation for the following DENR violations that the pristine and white-cloaked mayor brought upon himself. See documents for NC-DENR's Department of Water Quality Violations:

First, for a property in Cary in July of 2006, page 2 line 4,
http://www.enr.state.nc.us/novs/wq0706.pdf

and again for Chatham Forest, page 2, line 8,
http://www.enr.state.nc.us/novs/wq0208.pdf

So while the mayor's troops assemble and refute that everyone is out to get him and lying, and while these same troops put up barricades to try to protect him, Mr. Voller is violating many local and state regulations in his OWN NEIGHBORHOOD that HE DEVELOPED – And all the while, he continues to give those residents a manipulative song and dance. AND IT'S ALL IN THE PUBLIC RECORD - Go to the Pittsboro Town Hall, and see for yourself.

[Linda Felt]

Some of you have asked why people don't strike up a conversation with the mayor about these issues? Many people have tried that and have gotten the run around, or have just simply been lied to about the "when, where, what, and why" of the developmental issues, false promises, and violations surrounding his development of Chatham Forest, including, but not limited to:  What exactly is/was supposed to be on Park View Road, why did Voller spend Chatham Forest HOA monies to make improvements to a piece of private property that he owns, what are those DENR violations in Chatham Forest for, and why is he trying to make the residents and builders on Bellemont Rd. pay for his dad's company's sub-standard installation of the curb/gutter and 1st coat of pavement ?? And this BARELY scratches the surface.

Then scratch it.  Don't try to KO us with your wonderful Deep Throat knowledge - tell us what you know.  If you know people who have been lied to, who are they?  What were they lied to about?  How did he spend HOA monies on private stuff?  How do you know Morris Rowland's work was substandard?  Are you an engineer?  Didn't it have to pass some municipal inspection?  Who is Voller trying to make pay?  Out with it, woman.

You slyly sneak these little chestnuts in with this article you cite, but nothing you've posted herein supports them.

[Linda Felt]

everyone is out to get him and lying

I don't personally think that everyone is out to get Voller - but YOU clearly are and always have been.  You claim to never have met the man.  Why such a personal hatred?

[thinkinboudit]

Linda, Linda, Linda calm down girl, there's no hatred expressed in mouse's post.  Just facts, Linda, which have an effect on a lot of fellow residents.  They might also have an effect on new buildings because of the added, but unapproved, sewage flow into the plant.

Looks like hiz honor, the mayor hisself, has contributed to the anguish fellow residents feel about our development.  If he did use HOA funds to help improve his own property, that would be a bad thing, wouldn't it?

[Linda Felt]

If he did use HOA funds to help improve his own property, that would be a bad thing, wouldn't it?

Where has this been proven as a fact?  Please show us all.

[Linda Felt]

...there's no hatred expressed in mouse's post.  Just facts...

I think perhaps you skipped that day in grade school when the defintion for "facts" was taught.

[Charles39]

If he did use HOA funds to help improve his own property, that would be a bad thing, wouldn't it?

Where has this been proven as a fact?  Please show us all.

The Chatham Forest HOA hired and independent auditor to review the records over the last several years for HOA monies.  That auditor found that while Randy Voller was head of HOA, he spent HOA money to improve his personal property.  While this report may not be available online, you can contact Jeff Meridith of the Chatham Forest HOA and he will be glad to show you the audit.  Then you will have the "proof" you need.  I eagerly await your return from Jeff's because I know you will seek out the proof you have been asking for, won't you?

[fools gold]

Chas39, From my understanding, Randy Voller was never the "head" of the HOA. He was a board member--another falsehood that's been presented--and he served on the board with others. The current HOA board including Mr. Meredith presided over the community's business the past two years. They are auditing those two years plus all of the information given to them by the previous board. The law requires periodic audits. 

Mr. Meredith has harassed Mr. Voller, his wife and others in that community and has recently RESIGNED from their board. If he is the "source" of anything it is usually negative, only half-true, and/or full of opinion.

The "issue" you refer to involves the playground area in the front of the neighborhood. From my understanding, after neighbors requested a park, the previous board approved it and it was designed and installed.  It was then opened to the Pittsboro community, which created some rancor.

The fact that the business dealings of their HOA is being twisted for political gain and gotcha nonsense speaks volumes about those who traffic in these canards and half-truths.

If you polled every HOA in Pittsboro and the Triangle you will find a wide range of conspiracy theory and absurd behavior. Potterstone Village has had their own battles over stops signs and speeding, which has spilled over to the Town Board a few times in the past year. (See past Town Board minutes.)

[Charles39]

Chas39, From my understanding, Randy Voller was never the "head" of the HOA. He was a board member--another falsehood that's been presented--and he served on the board with others. The current HOA board including Mr. Meredith presided over the community's business the past two years. They are auditing those two years plus all of the information given to them by the previous board. The law requires periodic audits. 

Mr. Meredith has harassed Mr. Voller, his wife and others in that community and has recently RESIGNED from their board. If he is the "source" of anything it is usually negative, only half-true, and/or full of opinion.

The "issue" you refer to involves the playground area in the front of the neighborhood. From my understanding, after neighbors requested a park, the previous board approved it and it was designed and installed.  It was then opened to the Pittsboro community, which created some rancor.

The fact that the business dealings of their HOA is being twisted for political gain and gotcha nonsense speaks volumes about those who traffic in these canards and half-truths.

If you polled every HOA in Pittsboro and the Triangle you will find a wide range of conspiracy theory and absurd behavior. Potterstone Village has had their own battles over stops signs and speeding, which has spilled over to the Town Board a few times in the past year. (See past Town Board minutes.)

So why was the HOA kicked out of the sales office and told that Voller will rezone it to commercial and sell it, instead of turning it into a community property like most subdivisions do?

[fools gold]

Who was your source-Mr Meredith?  From what I understand he is a man at odds with many of his neighbors. Maybe Mr. Meredith is Mayoral material? Do want to be his campaign manager?

[Charles39]

Who was your source-Mr Meredith?  From what I understand he is a man at odds with many of his neighbors. Maybe Mr. Meredith is Mayoral material? Do want to be his campaign manager?

If you do not want to talk about it, I understand.

[Linda Felt]

Jeff Meredith is flat-out a crank and a racist who has alientated a lot of his neighbors with his extreme views.  He left the HOA board because he was saying and writing a lot of very questionable, inappropriate things.

For example, he and his wife complained loudly about "thugs" (their words) playing basketball at the Chatham Forest court when Voller opened up it to people living outside the neighborhood.  At that time it was the only court in town and provided a good place for young people to play ball and keep out of trouble.

The only problem these "thugs" presented was that they were young black men (most of whom have lived in Pittsboro all their lives - a lot longer than any Chatham Forest resident).  Sorry if that upset Meredith's lily-white apple cart.

My friend asked the HOA why they were doing the audit and was told it was because the HOA had 3 presidents in 3 years, and many of the expenditures under the governance of ex-president and avowed Voller-hater Rick Murray were murky.

How 'bout them facts?

[Charles39]

Jeff Meredith is flat-out a crank and a racist who has alientated a lot of his neighbors with his extreme views.  He left the HOA board because he was saying and writing a lot of very questionable, inappropriate things.

For example, he and his wife complained loudly about "thugs" (their words) playing basketball at the Chatham Forest court when Voller opened up it to people living outside the neighborhood.  At that time it was the only court in town and provided a good place for young people to play ball and keep out of trouble.

The only problem these "thugs" presented was that they were young black men (most of whom have lived in Pittsboro all their lives - a lot longer than any Chatham Forest resident).  Sorry if that upset Meredith's lily-white apple cart.

My friend asked the HOA why they were doing the audit and was told it was because the HOA had 3 presidents in 3 years, and many of the expenditures under the governance of ex-president and avowed Voller-hater Rick Murray were murky.

How 'bout them facts?

So you have seen the audit for yourself, or are your "facts" more factual because they are inline with what you believe? 

[Linda Felt]

So you have seen the audit for yourself...?

Have you?

[Charles39]

Is Hydrostructures racist too?  Or are their comments about substandard roads and unapproved sewer hookups true?

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