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« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2008, 12:25:54 PM » |
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NO drivers ed class? Explains some of the mo mo moves I have seen occur on the roads I guess.
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« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2008, 02:09:28 PM » |
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I be'lee that NC law prohibits bicycles on NC and US highways.
Nope no Drivers' Ed. They figure if the kid casn pass the written test then they are ready to get behind the wheel for the required hours there. Craxy fer shure!
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« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2008, 09:08:16 AM » |
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Re "bad road for a bicycle" above, we all have to keep in mind that public roads are just that. In many ways the rural two lane roads that are 95% of Chatham County's road system are exactly what bicycles are made for--surely it's safer than on the big boys like 14-501 and 64. The biggest hazard in Chatham County is probably deer--I saw at least 20 on Jones Ferry the other night. Wonder if the cyclists ever hit them?
I disagree with you Beel. I would rather have bicycles on 15-501 and 64. While the speeds are higher, most of the time, the roads are wider, have a wider shoulder, and the curves are not as sharp. I have never been "surprised" by a bicycle on 64. I agree I'd rather see them on a four lane highway with a wide paved shoulder beyond the white line and an adequate line-of-sight for everyone involved. It is just sound common sense. I'm sorry, but my parents taught me not to play "in" traffic; and, while I'd not wish harm on anyone, a bicyclist on a curvy, narrow, two-lane road with no paved shoulder during the height of rush hour is playing dangerously and foolishly with both the laws of physics and the possibility that the driver coming up behind them is either drunk, distracted, blinded by the sun or otherwise not capable of reacting quickly enough to avoid hitting them. Then again, these bicyclists do have rights and can and certainly will win that lawsuit from their hospital bed...or the graveyard...
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« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2008, 11:32:12 AM » |
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Re "bad road for a bicycle" above, we all have to keep in mind that public roads are just that. In many ways the rural two lane roads that are 95% of Chatham County's road system are exactly what bicycles are made for--surely it's safer than on the big boys like 14-501 and 64. The biggest hazard in Chatham County is probably deer--I saw at least 20 on Jones Ferry the other night. Wonder if the cyclists ever hit them?
I disagree with you Beel. I would rather have bicycles on 15-501 and 64. While the speeds are higher, most of the time, the roads are wider, have a wider shoulder, and the curves are not as sharp. I have never been "surprised" by a bicycle on 64. I agree I'd rather see them on a four lane highway with a wide paved shoulder beyond the white line and an adequate line-of-sight for everyone involved. It is just sound common sense. I'm sorry, but my parents taught me not to play "in" traffic; and, while I'd not wish harm on anyone, a bicyclist on a curvy, narrow, two-lane road with no paved shoulder during the height of rush hour is playing dangerously and foolishly with both the laws of physics and the possibility that the driver coming up behind them is either drunk, distracted, blinded by the sun or otherwise not capable of reacting quickly enough to avoid hitting them. Then again, these bicyclists do have rights and can and certainly will win that lawsuit from their hospital bed...or the graveyard... Yes I agree the bikers have rights, but myself I wouldn't ride on these windy roads. Your rights don't do you much good if your splattered all over the pavement and end up paralyzed. True you would and deserve your law suit if hit by a car, that's if the car even stops and doesn't pull a hit and run while the poor soul just lays there on the pavement with and chance of getting run over by the next car coming by or even worse get thrown into the woods where no one could see you. It's great that folks ride a bike to stay in shape, but for Gods sake it aint healthy to get run over either, rather if it's your fault or not. My fear is as the bikers continue to increase in population that this will not be the last incident, again this incident could of been alot worse, praise God it wasn't. Peace
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« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2008, 11:43:26 AM » |
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Re "bad road for a bicycle" above, we all have to keep in mind that public roads are just that. In many ways the rural two lane roads that are 95% of Chatham County's road system are exactly what bicycles are made for--surely it's safer than on the big boys like 14-501 and 64. The biggest hazard in Chatham County is probably deer--I saw at least 20 on Jones Ferry the other night. Wonder if the cyclists ever hit them?
actually I think your safer on 15-501, people can see you and no blind spots or blind curves' plus you have a large safety lane to ride in. Even though traffic maybe going faster, you more apt to get hit on a windy rural road that trees prevent you from seeing around. That's just my personal thought. Rock on bikers, whatever you decide what is best for your safety. Peace
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« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2008, 01:33:29 PM » |
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« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2008, 02:00:53 PM » |
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There is right-of-way and there is being DEAD right. One should not lightly risk one's life riding in a dangerous situation simply because the law allows it. Common sense is a higher law.
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« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2008, 02:03:01 PM » |
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I agree, I say that all the time. It doesn't matter whose fault it is when you're the one lying on the side of the road.
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« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2008, 04:08:07 PM » |
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I don't like being in the match off on these country roads in my vehicle and the dump trucks flying. NOOOO way would I want to greet one on a bike! I am a very defensive and careful driver (mainly because I pay enough in insurance thank ya' to cause an accident), but I have come around a blind curve going the speed limit and run up on a flock of bikes that dang near made me turn myself inside out to not hit them.
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« Reply #24 on: July 01, 2008, 04:43:38 PM » |
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« Reply #25 on: July 01, 2008, 08:26:18 PM » |
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 now that's just being stupid
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« Reply #26 on: July 01, 2008, 08:38:07 PM » |
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Just not safe out there ever which a way sometimes  I had a coworker at UNC that carpooled and they had a regular stop/drop off and the passenger as usual quickly "flung" the car door open to jump out and low and behold one day a biker was coming along at the same time and went straight into the car door. The bike stopped but he went over the door. Neither was looking out for the other I guess.
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« Reply #27 on: July 01, 2008, 10:25:03 PM » |
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Not funny but funny in a sick, boy prank way. My son used to ride to and from High School with some kids. One would fling his door open to scare bike riders in Carrboro. Thankfully never hurt anyone.
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« Reply #28 on: July 01, 2008, 10:31:01 PM » |
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Not funny but funny in a sick, boy prank way. My son used to ride to and from High School with some kids. One would fling his door open to scare bike riders in Carrboro. Thankfully never hurt anyone.
my daughter rides her bike in Carrboro. no kidding, if they had hurt her, that boy's parents would need a real good lawyer.
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« Reply #29 on: July 01, 2008, 10:39:09 PM » |
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Used to be a game called "Airplane", where you'd be in a car (4-door was ideal), and you'd see someone on a bike, and.. You get the idea. Well, maybe not a game, but times have changed.
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